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I am obviously not a Trump supporter, but you have to consider with 350 million people in the US, and the fact that he was the US president, he is obviously a frequent character in schizophrenic delusions.
The tip line should not be considered hard evidence in itself, as anyone can call in and make any kind of claim.
I have no doubt that he is a pedophile. I don't believe this story without corroborating evidence though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRZa_cVshcI
I believe the tip line until proven otherwise.
It's like 99% certain he used the "services", and probably helped the pipeline of new victims.
However the specifics of a web tip submitted in August 2020 in the height of a campaign should still be, itself, treated with some skepticism. There are indications that hopefully there's corroborating material to the tip that is absolutely worth searching for, but by itself, we should be cautious.
Why do we have to give him the benefit of the doubt? He's sending US citizens to be tortured in Salvadorian prisons and they have no rights. He'll get the same benefit of the doubt he gives those people.
Because we don't have to indulge in untrustworthy accounts because there's so much concrete material to work with.
To open things up for unsubstantiated accounts we are inclined to believe is to undermine ourselves when calling out those sources when they are not consistent with the truth on other matters.
This should absolutely be kicking off efforts to substantiate the indicated events in the tip. But we shouldn't act as if someone getting a tip into a web form is automatically a fact.
Meh, I go with the odds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRZa_cVshcI
I believe the tip line until proven otherwise.
We can go with those more well vetted sources until someone finds something to substantiate this tip.
If we go by unverified tips submitted to the FBI website, then we probably could get quite a few tips from 2016 alleging they saw Hilary Clinton going into the pizzagate place, ordering extra cheese, and walking out with a trafficked kid.
Here it's more plausible as it is more consistent with Epstein and Trump and all, but in an open tip line, it's just a mess
I do. The corroborating evidence is literally every single other thing we know about him.
If someone claimed they saw Billy the Burglar burgling their house - who 27 people previously reported catching burgling their houses, and who was on record talking about how much he liked burgling people’s houses, and was a known documented member of a secretive Burglar’s Guild - would you be like “hey, we don’t know that it was him THIS time, could’ve been someone lying to profit from claiming on the insurance”?
Your "example" broadly agrees with what I say. There is a lot of evidence that he is a pedophile. There is no evidence that he was present during the dumping of a newborn's body into lake Michigan - which is a different act to the "burglary" metaphor.