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[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Like, yeah, they might be Russian agents but they're WILLING agents. If Russia is asking them to do things, they're things these traitors already wanted to do.

So if your grandma buys magic beans from some guy that promises they'll cure her cancer, do you say "we'll she bought them, she deserved to get tricked"?

You are projecting your own mindset onto others.

[-] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I don't know why I'm here

all I care about is that we (as in US citizens) don't blame the other countries for the shit that we did and correcting the stupid ass people who think that they're the reason everything is so fucked up.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Being tricked into buying magic beans vs voluntarily being fucking evil for money and power

This is a moronic comparison

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No.

This is like my grandma wants to kill every groundhog in the world and is working on it one groundhog at a time, then she buys magic beans that the seller promises will make groundhogs easier and faster to kill after she plants them, but the seller is also a violent murderer and says that if she doesn't buy them and plant them then he'll stab her. So she buys and plants them, not because of the threat but because it's what she wants to, and then she goes on killing groundhogs but now it's faster and easier.

You see, the words "willing" and "tricked" are antithetical in this case. The threat is incidental to the story and, on a narrative level serves no purpose but to characterized the seller as evil; he didn't threaten her because the threat was necessary to successfully extort her, he threatened her because it's in his nature to threaten people. The threat doesn't change the outcome in any way.

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