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[-] essell@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I can make financial security happen by my own efforts.

True Love has been more elusive because it's one order of magnitude more complicated!

[-] cliffracer_cloaka@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago

You can't. Nobody is self made.

[-] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I have the empirical and theoretical evidence to prove that wrong.

Everybody is self made, not everyone will admit it or recognise it.

Off all the factors that govern our lives, from the circumstances of our birth, to random chance and our daily routines... Nothing in our lives has a bigger impact on who we are as a person than the choices we make.

[-] cliffracer_cloaka@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

You're much more a result than you are a factor, and you're nothing on your own. Your disagreement is universal proof. Astounding huh?

[-] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

What a depressing view of people.

As a therapist working with a philosophy of individual empowerment, and seeing it work every day, I'm glad to have my view of life.

It'd suck to feel like we're all just like plastic bags being blown about in the winds of fate!

[-] cliffracer_cloaka@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

At least you're moving those brain cells a bit now, Mr. Therapist. There's nothing depressing about understanding basic human interaction.

Attention, you might cry fallacy now: Even a guy who was on top of 3 careers (my boy Arnie) recognised that he was nothing like a self-made man and everything is a combination of work,luck, collaboration, opportunity. See how far you'd get on a desert island :)

Your plastic bag metaphor was amusing, but not for the right reasons, and the exact opposite of what I'm saying. Be careful with that therapy stuff. I wouldn't trust you.

[-] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It'd be fascinating to see how your choice to take this view has shaped your life!

[-] cliffracer_cloaka@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My life is rather boring (safety!) but full of loving people.

Edited to add: my view alone didn't shape my life. There are uncountable factors at work.

[-] ifalas@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Since you're into philosophy now, you should look into the fact that free will doesn't even exist. Where does that leave your beliefs? Did you learn about people fooling themselves with comforting, self-serving illusions in therapy school?

[-] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm aware that some people choose to take that view, which I find ironic!

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