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submitted 2 years ago by Lemmyin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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[-] WomboCombo@lemmy.nilskrau.de 13 points 2 years ago

There is a post explaining the details here: https://lemmy.world/post/149743

[-] Lemmyin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Ok I took a minute to read some of it. It’s just confusing to me, how is Beehaw defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works for whatever reason is not like exactly like what Reddit is doing to third party apps? You want to federate with us? Sure, but you have to play by OUR rules. That’s not how it should work.

[-] WomboCombo@lemmy.nilskrau.de 11 points 2 years ago

Defederating in this situation means (to my very limited understanding). Users on lemmy.world can see posts from beehaw.org, they also can interact with the posts/comments. Those interactions just don't show up on beehaw.org, so that they don't have to moderate as much.

Reddit charging a metric ton of cash for their api is more or less if you would have to pay (the creator of lemmy) for each user if you decide to create your own instance (lemmy.world, beehaw.org and whatnot).

[-] query@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I think defederation works both ways, the posts you can see from lemmy.world are old copies, not being updated anymore.

[-] Johanno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You might be right, but I understand it so that beehive is still providing the true to everyone, just lemmy.world users can't interact with the true version they will get an out of sync version with only their comments. But lurking should be still possible. Basically similar to a silent ban. You can still post but (almost) nobody can see it. (almost means only lemmy.world users)

Since it is out of sync .world users and sh.itjust.works users can also not interact on beehive posts since they both have their own out of sync copy.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, I am miffed. With such a focus on community I’d have expected a discussion thread or poll for Beehaw members before making a nuclear action, not a thread posted after it was done. It was a very sudden action. I’m not thrilled that anybody against the idea over there is being painted as some kind of problematic person. It is giving me a bad vibe.

Also, nothing in the pinned post I saw mentioned talking with the Lemmy.world mods. It seems to me that attempting communication to come to a mutually agreed standard of behavior is something to be tried as an early measure. Just because there aren’t a lot of built in technical mode tools doesn’t take away talking.

The fact that Beehaw mods unilaterally decided this, without prior input from other communities or their own members really bugs me.

I was very optimistic for Beehaw but this is a worrying use of petty mod power.