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submitted 3 days ago by ZDL@lazysoci.al to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca

Interesting report from the world of diplomacy and military alliance.

The headline quotation is a direct quotation of a non-American senior official to the Americans at the meeting.

80 years of effort to build up a world of shared values burned in under a year. 80 years of soft power tossed in the compost pile and recycled into fertilizer. 80 years of blood, sweat, and tears as Americans laboured to make the world safe for America.

All gone in the tantrums of a decrepit toddler.

Indeed, USA: We genuinely will never fucking trust you again.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago

Even if the democrats return to power they would have to clearly demonstrate a commitment to the old values. Not just words, actual actions would be required.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

lol democrats returning to power is just more of the same. that's not gonna do it.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the Biden administration was their last chance to turn this around and they blew it hard. Done now.

Best I can see coming out of a Democratic win would be another temporary pause in America's decline. I don't think they can recover without a complete shattering of their system so that it can perhaps be rebuilt or replaced.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago

So, an impossibly then. Their donors/sponsors/puppeteers are the same as the Republicans'.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's the issue really. A lot of Americans seem to think that I'd the Republicans loose the next election / they do badly at the primarys (assuming there is one, I have my doubts) everything will go back to normal. It won't.

I suppose a 3rd party might rise to power due to public distrust of the big two.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

I think Zohran Mamdani has a good chance of starting this.

That's exactly why the Democratic party never embraced him from the beginning; he's not playing by their rules, and he's not paid by their masters. I think that he and others like him have a very real chance of starting third political party in this country because it's not just that people are fed up with the Republicans or the people are fed up with the Democrats is that people are fed up with the complete ineptitude of both parties to get anything used for meaningful done.

In the case of the Republicans they play like there's some bad guy and they're fighting for their followers and pinning the blame on immigrants or trans people or blacks or whoever is convenient that year.

In the case of the Democrats they talk a good game but they never get anything done because if they actually solved something it would piss off the people giving the money. So like before when they had full control of house in Congress they didn't do shit. And then to keep from being voted out or to get voted back in they'll say hey at least we're not Republican.

I don't see the difference anymore because functionally they're doing the same thing, the Democrats are just quieter about it.

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