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whats wrong, man? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 3 days ago by erotador to c/lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com

transcription: in lotr the word "man" is only used for human men so now im imagining like, someone: "are you a man or a woman?" pippin: "im a hobbit" someone: "but whats in your trousers?" pippin: "mostly snacks"

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[-] birdwing 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Correction, Tolkien uses 'man' for 'human' in general, following Old English semantics.

More accurately it'd be, "are you were or wife?"

Thus it came to the ears of Hobbiton that a guest was come, who asked of Pippin whether, as one of the Men, he was a were or wife. "Neither", Pippin declared: "I am an Hobbit". But the visitor was yet unwilling to yield, and asked once more which was the matter below his belt. "Food, I suppose, my sir; elevensies, lunch, and possibly an afternoon meal, if I will."

[-] Lyra_Lycan 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, until the infuriating plot break when Tolkien had Éowyn say "I am no man" and fucking succeeded in killing the Witch King with Merry. Then he was absolutely using 'man' to mean cisgender male human.

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

Éowyn isn't her true name, Ann is. She is a gnome. I thought this was well-established.

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