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Russia ‘ready’ for war with Europe, Putin says, as US peace talks end without progress
(www.theguardian.com)
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To everyone saying Russia can't go to war with Europe because of their failures in Ukraine: this is just not true, and a dangerous assumption.
Their economy has been on a war footing for some time now, and they don't sacrifice preparedness for war with NATO to support the war in Ukraine. That's why they've thrown all their old inventory at Ukraine. Use it up to soak up ammunition, shift the economy to build new equipment.
Does everyone really think all this hesitation from Europe is because they think Russia has been neutered?
I thought all the hesitation was because of the nukes.
I’m pretty sure it’s the nukes.
Narrator - "It was the nukes"
No one is using nuclear weapons.
But let's say I'm wrong. We should still not fear them. The reason being that accepting nuclear blackmail destines the human race to even more misery and pain than it experiences now.
Rip the bandaid off. Call the nuclear bluff. Then once it proves toothless and we don't have fascists at the helm, work on nuclear disarmament so we don't have any accidents.
Is that gamble worth the lives of nearly every living thing on the planet and the future of human civilization?
Russia alone has enough nuclear weapons to cause a mass extinction event. Even if no one else fires a single one, they could erase life as we know it.
If Putin sees a Leopard tank in Moscow, are you sure he wouldn’t order a launch? And if Britain or the French see those missiles and bombers, are you sure they won’t launch in retaliation?
That’s the logic that European leaders are operating under. If they pull the trigger on article 5 and launch a war with Russia, even if they win, everyone could still lose literally everything.
Push Russia out of Ukraine. No need to cross the border into Russia. Totally justified, no threat to Moscow. Sets precedent.
Why would that be so risky? If the answer is because nukes, my point stands.
And every time the politicians start with "the costs to mah economy". They know every bullet fired means less healthcare and pension they can give to voters and that's often sensitive thing during elections.
But by now they're figuring out that acting like total wussies is losing votes too.
You're reacting to a doctored headline making it seem like Putin is threatening Europe with war. Putin's words, as portrayed inside the article, clearly mean the opposite: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”
First of all, my comment was not about the headline so much as all the comments talking about Russia not being ready, so not sure what "reacting" I was doing yo the headline (can you read?) Secondly, the headline does not "seem like" Putin is threatening Europe with war. Thirdly, your "opposite" line at the end is basically the exact same thing as the headline you are criticizing ("we are ready" = "Putin says Russia is ready")
You've wasted my precious electrons thank you