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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 121 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] oxysis 54 points 3 months ago

Ea Nasir is a really interesting case study of how one piece of information can be interpreted in two completely different ways.

One interpretation, and the one most people know, is that the authors of the clay tablets complaints are legitimate.

The other is that Ea Nasir kept them as a record of people attempting to harm his reputation. So he could remember who to avoid doing business with in the future.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

Also ancient Sumer had a pretty decent legal system for it's time, it's entirely possible Ea-Nasir was keeping the tablets for a possible court case. So the ancient equivalent of saving texts from a shit customer.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 13 points 3 months ago

Your honor, I have 500 lbs of receipts.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

"What's a pound? Some savages measurements from the east? We use mina."

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Mina? I barely mined'a!

I will go home now, don't mind me, coming through, heyyyup.

[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut 10 points 3 months ago

So it's like the Lemmy modlog. Maybe it's a log of mods calling out bad users, maybe it's a log of mods lying and power tripping.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

^ this person has been horribly wronged.

[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut 2 points 3 months ago
[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

It was meant as an observation, but I'm glad you take such passion in your work, Mummy's Little Blood Slut! <3

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
  1. he was gathering evidence of an employee or delivery partner comitting fraud
[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why don't y'all just get to machine learn all those fucking tablets you dug up, like hundreds of thousands of them, and train a fucking AI on that shit and tell us what it says instead of sitting here being a besserwisser online, HMM? If there was one good cause for AI, cuneiform would be it. Just god damned saying.

Edit: just btw I happen to know that the problem is mainly the first training set, you need cuneiformers to correctly give the answers so the model knows what to train on, and there's like seven people in the world who do that, but I'm thinking, what if we trained an AI model on all the cuneiform we do know? Hit me up for proposals, I'm serious about this shit

[-] oxysis 1 points 3 months ago

First off I don’t study ancient Mesopotamia, I just have actual historical training so I know how to look at a piece of evidence and be able to see how it can be interpreted in multiple different ways.

Second, machine learning is not a cure all solution. The time that it will take to get a machine learning algorithm to even be half of a human translator can do is just wasteful of our time. Machine learning will produce a ton of errors that will have to be dug through by those some limited translators. Meaning they won’t be doing what we actually need them to do for prolonged periods of time.

Third, even if (and that’s a big if) it could figure out translations for things we haven’t been able to, we would still have a hard time verifying it’s accuracy till translate it ourselves. We are dealing with a fully extinct language here, we had to decipher what it actually means. We are dealing with fragmentary artifacts too, something which no AI model could accurately fill in the blanks of.

Fourth, cool call me names because I specialized into a different field. I’m going to leave the actual translation efforts to the experts in ancient Mesopotamia, you should too.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago

I would give this merchant zero stars if I could

[-] Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Awful copper

Worst trade experiemce of my life. I will not be returning

[-] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Best copper

Best trade I ever had. I will for sure return.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Suppliuppliuma II accepts your proposition, in spite of wearing nothing but an over-sized bath towel.

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