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Ukraine Says It Won’t Give Up Land to Russia
(www.theatlantic.com)
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Zelensky is a completely incompetent moron. He could have easily done a deal and avoided whole war. Now he's gonna be exactly the same thing but with ruined economy and wasted lives.
Lmao. Its going to be a smaller Ukraine . Much more manageable one.
That population that fled to Europe is not coming back.
They will be taught a lesson and denazified.
Somehow I doubt Russian fascists intend to denazify anything. More likely they will add Ukrainian people and economic output to their war machine and pick a new former Russian Imperial possession to invade.
Yep, they're already doing this in the occupied regions. The men there are sent to the same war.
or they plant russian citizens in the region, so they can "vote to join russia"
My word, this is the stupidest thing I've read today
This is what-if thinking. Right now the Russian are clearly showing disinterest in negotiating the end of the war, they are fully prepared to sacrifice more lives in order to gain territories, there is no reason to think they weren't already at the start.
it's delusional thinking, they took crimea...and they tried to to take more when they thought they could get away with, russians have been using the same playbook for centuries now. there are so many examples to pick from here showing this...give them anything and it just paints you as an easy target for more.
the real question (imo) is why hasnt someone just assassinated putin by now
Because everyone close enough to assassinate Putin benefits from the regime. None of them are in their positions for altruistic reasons and all them them would face the gallows if Russia had real accountability. It's why Coup attempts are frequently not launched by Generals.
there was barely resistance during obama when he took crimea, he was hoping biden was the same. his micalculated, covid helped indirectly, because everyone was basically home and paying attention to the news.
More specifically he underestimated the preparation of Ukrainian soldiers, notably the fact that NATO instructors came to share their training and tactics and help to prepare for the next war. He was well aware of it though, he used that as an argument that Ukraine was about to join NATO.
they still have over 135-144milion people in russia, he would probably send half of his orcs if he could.
Nobody wants to accept that the celebrity comedian placeholder candidate who won on a generic protest vote years before the war started isn't this generation's Nelson Mandela.
I'm beginning to understand how the Ukrainians have lost to an army as incompetent and corrupt as the Russians.
Ohh you just took the crown for stupidest comment I've read today
Zelenskyy is a hero, the Churchill of our time. Your boss Pootang is a greedy, theiving, cowardly midget with a tiny penis, Boris.
Churchill? The guy who killed 4.2 million of Indians via famine? Who proclaimed fascism the antidote to the poison of communism?
I like Zelenskyy less than most billionaires, but I wouldn't compare him to a genocidal ghoul like Churchill.
The slow walking of Military Aid under Biden and the disruption of aid under Trump are the main reasons the Ukrainians haven't done better. Most people are amazed they did as well against the Russian's as they have.