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I wish the Steam Controller used AA batteries
(lemmy.world)
Based on the description on their site, the controller includes a built-in battery: "8.39 Wh Li-ion battery, 35+ hours of gameplay... "
That was disappointing for me. Specially condidering the Steam Frame's controllers make use of AA batteries: "One replaceable AA battery per controller, 40hr battery life"
AA Batteries might not be as convenient to use, but being able to replace them is a great advantage. All my Xbox360 controllers still work fine, but none of my PS3' Dualshock 3s.
The official docking station could be used to recharge (rechargables) AA batteries so the functionality could remain the same.
An important thing to note is that the Steam Controller will be user-serviceable and they want to continue their partnership with ifixit
Why is that important
Because it means you can probably swap your battery with a single screw or two.
I'm not doing that on a regular basis. I can swap the battery in my Xbox controller without any screws.
E: Wow, I really love being downvoted for my opinion. Super cool shit, guys.
Not downvoting you, but you’re not being reasonable. Serviceable means actually serviceable. It might be “better” to use AA batteries but if they can’t, the next best thing would be that it can be serviced by the actual end consumer. And yeah if you’re planning on fixing your own things you may need to own a screwdriver.
I don't think you understand. I'm not talking about service. No one is talking about normal use. We're talking about swappable batteries. Remember like we had in phones back in the day? I swap the batteries on my current controller every few days. It's not unreasonable to expect modern controllers to have the same functionality they had 20 years ago...
Except that you don't have to swap the batteries on a built-in rechargeable battery every few days. You plug it in when you aren't using it, and swap the batteries every few years when they stop holding a charge. I guarantee you the time spent swapping AAs every few days will far outweigh the time you spend using a screw driver to replace this battery at the frequency it requires.
Yeah, but the AAs will still be around in 10 years. Until we standardize internal power cells and legally mandate companies use them, I don't really care how user-serviceable it is, by the time it actually needs a swap most companies are done selling it anyways and just want you to buy the next thing instead. At best you can get a shady third-party knockoff. Valve is slightly better in this regard, but I don't expect them to still sell batteries 10-15 years from now.
I think most people just use "user-serviceable" as a cope and never actually intend to service it, it just makes them feel better to think they can. They just throw it away and get a shiny new thing when it becomes slightly inconvenient.
And what happens when the controller dies? That requires:
I don't have a charging station in my couch.
I guarantee you it doesn't. Not to mention those screws would become stripped in a matter of weeks.
Man is gaming 24/7 and has zero downtime where he could plug in a controller. That's dedication right there /s
We've already been over this. I don't want to be tethered to a cable.
Sounds like your use case is unique and does not match the use case of the vast majority of users. Maybe you should look for another controller that meets your very specific requirements more closely.
I already have one, but thank you for the suggestion.
OP and several others have expressed similar sentiments in this thread so I'm obviously not alone in the "vast minority".
You think you're use case isn't a tiny minority because you found some other people on a thread?
A thread specifically about the use case?
This is how the world gets dumber.
Every controller I own (dual shocks, dual senses, 8bitdo's, switch pros) lasts me an entire day of gaming at least. Plug them in at night and you're good.
What happens if your controller dies and you're out of AA batteries?
I, for one, still don't understand why you want to swap batteries. I'm assuming you're talking about rechargable AA batteries, and not the environmental disaster that are single use batteries. How's taking the batteries out, going to the charging station, swapping the batteries, returning and installing them back into the controller less convenient that just dropping the controller onto the recharging puck when it's not in use?
So you have some special conditions where you can't recharge the controller between sessions?
Because I don't want to be tethered to a cable.
Because then I have to be constantly concerned about the state of the battery at any time. I have enough rechargeable devices to be worried about.
Just have the magnetic puck exactly in the location where you leave your controller when not playing and done, never think about the battery and don't swap things.
So you'd rather swap batteries than put the controller on a charger - which they showed to be crazy easy to do? You're still not making much sense.
Suck my dick, Nazi mod.
I mean, there are two reasons that you want to swap batteries.
So that the device doesn't die. This is what OP is worried about. This probably takes years and years of use, though (unless you leave the thing discharged for a long time).
So that you can use the controller wirelessly (say, in a living room, so people don't trip over a cord) and also charge its batteries. For most people, I'd think that this isn't a huge problem
I mean, my controllers with lithium batteries last way longer than I would stay awake on a full charge, and next time I use them, they're charged. I normally run my controllers wired for better latency and not having to care about charge, but there are people who do have a legit need for wireless. However, I can think of some exotic cases where it would be necessary. Think of, say, a rec room on a ship or something with shifts of people who are constantly using the thing, where there's no time to recharge (though then, I think you could just get a second controller or something, swap out the one charging for the one in use). The XBox controller did the AA battery thing, and I have a Logitech F710 that does this. Makes a controller heavier than lithium batteries do, though, produces a shorter battery life relative to the weight, and places some constraints on the layout of the controller (since you need to have the volume to stick the batteries in.
For #1, yeah, the idea of taking off a screw after 10 years or something being prohibitive is pretty absurd.
But if someone is just wanting to do the "simultaneous charge and use" thing, #2, then the screw is an issue, because you'd need to do that every, say, two days or so.
#2 is not an issue with a controller advertised to have 35h of battery life. Which you should charge when not in use. Unless the commenter I replied to games for 35h+ continuous hours, in which case none of what they said applies to any member of functioning society.
Wow, that was super unnecessary...
It's based on the bullshit you've been spewing about AA. And that last statement is just the cherry on top.
You're not in this for longevity of device usage, you're in this for convenience. Gtfo.
Expecting my devices to be convenient? Oh, the horror...
Nazi mod continues to do Nazi shit to no one's surprise.
I used my launch day PS4 controller up until last year without ever having to unlatch a cover or unscrew a screw. After more than a decade of use, I finally had to open the case and replace the USB port with a new board I bought for $2 by unscrewing and unplugging the old one and swapping it out with the new one.
Why are you acting like having to replace the battery is this super inconvenient thing that you'll have to do frequently when the odds of having to do so more than once every 5-10 years is unlikely with proper care? I'd consider having to replace AA batteries more of a hassle than that. Especially if they go bad and leak all over the contacts or something. Crystalized battery acid is a pain in the ass to clean out.
I'd rather have screws than those clip-in covers that break or having to pry the device open like some brands of devices, ie most of the tech industry. Somewhere in the middle. Quickly being able to replace a battery easily a plus don't get me wrong, but I don't want it getting torn up in the process one either extreme. I am ok with it may take several minutes, but not with "can I buff this out" or "where is the tape/glue".