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Is this real?
Real as in "are they sword fighting to the death?" - no
Real as in "have they come together in person to take a picture?" - likely yes
Yes, they recently shot a video together.
Wow. I have a bit more respect for one than the other. The dweeb made a video where he pretended to try Linux and botched it on purpose
Not on purpose in the way you are suggesting... he tried it all on his own in earnest, but made a dumb mistake not reading the prompt carefully enough or trying to understand it. But, he only got into that situation because of an error on Pop OS! maintainers' part. It was an unknown issue at the time until he uncovered it. OCAU thread that discussed the issue at the time
I don't get your logic. Why would he do it on purpose? He's been advocating for and promoting Linux gaming for years now, why would he fail on purpose.
Honestly, what happened seems like something pretty normal for someone that isn't a programmer or system admin. I remember when consoles were black boxes to me and I wouldn't understand anything that was written in there even though today it might seem extremely obvious. It was just bad luck that his attempt lined up with a Pop!_OS bug, he didn't expect that such a normal use case as installing Steam would result in him deleting his desktop environment, and just saw the last line and did what it said.
I haven't seen any evidence of that.
I don't agree at all that the average user would read that warning and proceed. I have seen many people freeze up and cancel upon seeing messages nowhere near that level just because they didn't understand. That was maybe the scariest warning I've seen. It explicitly said it probably would break the system. I always find it odd when people act like it's normal behavior to proceed in that situation.
He talks about wanting Linux to succed and win marketshare over Windows on many WAN shows, and in general, he is positive towards Linux in the sense that he wants it to win, but he also feelt like it wasn't ready yet for real mass adoption. For example, he's rooting for Valve and the SteamDeck and Steam machine to be a success and has been widely positive of Proton and what it has managed to achieve. Perhaps you want him to make videos about Linux, in which case, yes, he hasn't made that many dedicated videos on it, but on streams he is often positive whenever talking about it.
Also, why are people defending the scumbag for any reason? He was caught manipulating benchmarks after getting paid by a hardware company (forget which company, easy to Google this)
If this is based on the GamersNexus videos, those are pretty absurd hit pieces that seemed to come from some bizarre place of resentment. They've had process issues when it comes to how they benchmark hardware, but never anything paid or purposefully misleading.
I'm honestly wondering if you've confused it with something else.
If that's the case, could you link a source then? Because I wasn't able to find it with a quick Google search He has been the subject of many controversies over the years, most of which have been wildly misinterpreted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc
This is basically a hit piece that has been in many ways disproven. Linus and his team are a bunch of apes but that means they are mostly incompetent, not actually malicious.
This. Recently I took a deep dive into the controversies from both sides. It is a little difficult to piece things together because most of Linus' more detailed replies came from old WAN shows, but I can say with certainty now that it's incompetence and miscommunication.
If anything, my opinion on Linus stayed about the same and my opinion on GN went way down. After a certain point I couldn't help but feel that either Steve just really hates Linus, or he was trying to drag his reputation enough for GN to snatch a larger piece of the tech YouTube pie. Neither are a good look.
Yeah, from everything that I saw and I was watching WAN Show regularly at that time, and from the posts that I saw and the explanations that they made, it mostly seems that LTT had a problem of growing too big, too fast, management was still in the mindset that they were a small company with a few people, they just didn't grow correctly, and that came to bite them in the ass. They say they've tried to improve on this, and that they are better nowadays, that's to be seen. But either way, this didn't seem like malice, and the way GN doubled down just left a very bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, you already told me you're a fanboy who would reject evidence, so I'm not surprised
On purpose, or on stupid? Answers prompt with "I know what I am doing", breaks system, complains.
…while being forced to do so to achieve a basic thing, and after finding it as the solution on the web (because it usually is). Remember, Pop!_OS screwed up so badly that the installation of a common user program caused the removal of core system packages. While it's correct to expect people to read warnings, expecting beginners and common users to either learn about the (very complex) inner workings of an operating system just to install something or to let go of their entire gaming library is unreasonable. And although Linus of course should have an interest in learning these things given his work and should've taken more care, the video was specifically to showcase how their experience as new users look like. And Pop!_OS was generally regarded as user-friendly, not as solely aimed at professionals (important detail).
If the only solution to a problem with a very common task on a user-friendly OS is hidden behind an advanced-level skill wall (yes, knowing all the important packages if your OS means you're an advanced user) that may kill you if you do a single wrong action then your system offers shitty solutions.
Fortunately both user-friendly distros and aspects of them like Flatpak have gone way further since then, so this shouldn't happen as easily anymore. The warnings in apt are way more noticeable now too I think. The Linux community learned from all the bad press… most of it at least.
He explained he was trying to approach it as an average user. But that seems disengenous to me. That warning was scary as fuck. Anyone stupid enough to go far out of their way to break their system against very strong warnings, gets what they get. The average users I know wouldn't have done that unless they were pretty much done trying and didn't care if it broke their system anyhow
Link?
CD-i Link has entered the chat…
I was more hoping for the "Well Excuuuuuseee me, Princess" Link, but I'll take it.
This one?
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Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me Princess
Not out yet: http://youtube.com/post/UgkxJH41xfgExAQbc1ej3AkWVqSVjeR93WFf
Like a 70s porno.