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[-] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I feel like there is a concerted effort to delegitimise Wikipedia recently. Long live Wikipedia.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Wikipedia has been a great way to launder right wing punditry into a form liberals will accept. People who would never otherwise give credence to people like Anne Applebaum or Thomas Friedman will treat their words as indisputable gospel if they're copy pasted onto Wikipedia.

[-] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago

Knowledge, especially free and easily accessible knowledge is detrimental to elites. Under educated peoples are easy to coerce, control, manipulate, scapegoat, scare, etc. So the easier it is for people to educate themselves, or just be educated the worse it is. Capitalists by default want dumb workers who don't know the meaning of value, it's part of the reason theres been a massive anti-intellectualist push this last decade or so.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm sure the elites are terrified at you having access to articles overwhelmingly written by western libertarians that happily and frequently source right wing pundits.

[-] Miro_Collas@masto.ai 4 points 4 days ago

@BrainInABox Left AND right wing "pundits" are frequently cited. Sometimes there are editing "wars" where the two sides erase each other's edits, but those are swiftly stopped and the issue is debated until a neutral consensus emerges.

The right detest wikipedia because their lies are removed, so they created grokipedia. Some of the left hate it for the same reason. Bizarre

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Right wing pundits are cited overwhelmingly more and given vastly more wait, often being treated as reliable and undisputed sources of truth. If you look at the largest sources of pro-Isreal propaganda over the last two years, there's a good chance you'll find them on Wikipedia's trusted source list.

those are swiftly stopped and the issue is debated until a neutral consensus emerges.

No, what happens is that one side locks down the discussion, reverts all changes, refuses to debate in good faith, calls in sympathetic admins to discipline their opponents, locks the page, and, from personal experience, begins making organised attempts to dox dissenters. This is why dogshit right wing pundits like Anne Applebaum, and literal CIA propaganda outlets like Radio Free Asia, remain up as "reliable" sources permanently.

The right detest wikipedia

The far right detest it, the neoliberal centre right adore it for enshrining western supremacist neo-liberalism as cultural gospel.

Some of the left hate it for the same reason.

No, they hate it because the truth is removed and propaganda from entrenched neoliberal Zionist sources is treated as gospel.

[-] Miro_Collas@masto.ai 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

@BrainInABox Sorry but that's simply not true. Spent any time reading the talk pages to see how things work?

Also you didn't answer my question on a better source of info.

[Added: never mind, I see you replied separately.]

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Yes, I have spent time reading the talk pages, which is how I know it is true.

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