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[discussion] Proposal to defederate from maga.place
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this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2025
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That's a really poor analogy here though. Here's one that I think is better:
Communities can block individual users that are undesirable without the instance getting involved. That's the Nazi bar example, and it's totally reasonable for communities to have strict moderation for who they let in.
Instances should only get involved if admins from another instance refuse to take action against their users who cause issues. And an instance can block another with minimal drama, it's like border security not accepting visas from that country any more. Until we have evidence that an instance isn't capable of enforcing rules on its users, there's no reason to ban them.
Well that's why we're voting, isn't it? This isn't the admins making a decision to defederate, it's the users.
And jesus fucking christ the amount of FUD going on over this is more enough to show that it should be defederated.
Yes, and that's why I'm making my case for not defederating. I don't like their content, and honestly wouldn't be sad to see them go, but I'm against defederation decisions being made based on political views, and that seems to be what's happening here.
Weird, I came to the opposite conclusion. Here's the process I followed:
The negative impact to users seemed exceedingly small, since they didn't even have engagement on their own posts, and I haven't seen anyone discussing issues with the few users they have.
So why defederate? This seems like a bunch of people virtue signaling over pretty much nothing, mostly based on the domain (WTF?), and somewhat based on conservative views.
I think we should stay federated on principle to remind people that civility has value. We don't want to be like Lemmy.ml that bans people over content critical to the CCP or Russia, and how is defederating from this instance any different?
Maybe we need to defederate later if their instance causes issues, but then we'd be absolutely justified.