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Newsom Says He Will Consider a 2028 Presidential Run After the Midterms
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Wake up! Enough of these purity tests. We need someone, ANYONE, who can win an election at this point. Perfect or not, we need a winner. Any Democrat would be a win at this point.
The conservatives accept anyone who agrees with even one issue and then says, "We'll work on the rest of the stuff, but you're welcome on our side." While the left says, "Unless you are perfectly clean of any and all past discrepancies, then you are not allowed here."
I know I'm going to get downvoted to hell and back for this too. If Newsom is willing to fight MAGA and no one else is, then I'd vote for him. I don't want a heartless, transphobic president either, but perfect is the enemy of good. MAGA is destroying this country day-by-day. The search for an ideal candidate will result in President JD Vance.
Purity test to liberal is what woke is to Republicans, it's a bs tagline to things they ain't want to hear. If liberals kept their candidates to any kind of standard, we wouldn't have someone like Trump in office. If liberals help their people accountable, we wouldn't have a potential JD Vance as next president.
It might be easy for you if you came to terms that many of us them at are vocal against the entire system are not Democrats, so we don't vote for or support Democrats. Your desire for 'ANYONE who can win' is how we got to where we are, you're willing to accept anything with a D in front of their name regardless of what they've done and who they are. And when we point out what they've done liberals scream purity test.
I'm willing to accept the most viable candidate that will fight MAGA. I'd vote for a progressive liberal in a heartbeat. It's not ideal, I understand that, but the reality is I'd rather have Newsom than a MAGA candidate. I don't want a corporate centrist, but if that's what it takes for now, that's what I'll have to vote for again.
I could give you a magic button that removes any and all traces of MAGA from the US, but American fascism would eventually fester again under a new name. American fascism is the only logical conclusion to a country that was founded solely by 20-something, white, enslaving, rich, male landowners. You blue maga types are not at all opposed to the death and destruction that the US has carried out outwardly for the past 200 years - you just care all of a sudden now that the violence has been pointed inwards and your brunch has been interrupted. Blue maga is not about addressing the contradictions that allow fascism to fester, but just about reclaiming American patriotism. MAGA is not the enemy. Capitalism is. And until you obtain revolutionary politics, youre doomed to keep descending into fascism until the cows come home.
This is some truly insane reasoning where your house is on fire, but you're like "let's worry about flood season in a few months."
You don't stop the fire, it won't be around for the flood.
You exist in a fantasy land where liberals work together to get things done. Conservatives who are literal criminals and pedophiles have control of the entire government and you are picking apart a candidate because they don't match your opinion on every one of your issues. Even as I tell you I'm on your side, you don't believe me, hurl insults like "Blue MAGA" and blame me for fascism.
Again, ideally, I would vote for a more progressive candidate, but I will vote for anyone willing to fight MAGA and the billionaire capitalist class.
Truly, I am so thankful these people are on the fringe.
They somehow think they are better than the only people actually trying to put out the fire because firefighting is dirty work and their hands aren't dirty.
Democrats are not trying to put out the fire, they won't even acknowledge the fire exists as long as it's their team burning society to the ground.
It is an illness to be so far up ones own ass that people can be extra-judicially killed, kidnapped, sterilized, arrested for their free speech and more, and then you turn around and pretend a mid center to center right party is the same thing as the fascists.
I guess its easy for you to say when your ass isn't the first on the chopping block.
God damn champagne socialists.
Who laid the groundwork for all those things to happen under Trump? The same people that always lay the groundwork for Republicans, fucking Democrats. Today's Democrats only appear to be right of center in a center that used to be considered far right. Liberals biggest issue with leftists is that we refuse to move to the right with you.
I can't even begin to think about the contortion needed to come up with that logic.
There is a reason its not backed up with anything.
Im guessing the best youll be able to string together will be so contrived itll be some nonsense like "Biden had ICE too, so that means he did the same thing as the Gestapo" or some equally insane nonsense.
In 2016 liberals whined about trump locking kids in cages while ignoring who built those cages for kids. In 2025 they cried about denied due process while ignoring Obama denied 75% to those he deported using a law pushed for and passed by Bill Clinton.
Even in this nonsensical half truth filled comment, you can't help but point out that there is a clear difference between the 2 parties, yet, in a political system where they are the options, you pretend you can't see jack shit.
As expected.
You are too close to the situation to see their end games are exactly alike with slightly different delivery of the message.
What a fascinating way to try to spin being out of touch into being smarter
I can't believe you argued with this person for so long over multiple threads.
It happens.
Its like can you join the threads somehow? Probably not, and it just kinda goes on.
You are not on our side, Democrats are not even remoting like leftists. You claim to want to fight MAGA and the billionaire capitalist class while simultaneously supporting the billionaire capitalist class that also finds Democrats. Democrats like yourself don't want to change the system you want to reform it into something that won't disrupt your brunch. Liberals don't mind deportations as long as they dont hear about it. They don't mind ICE as long as they don't hear about it.
This is just foolishness.
Its completely childish to pretend that if you ignore the current system, it will ignore you.
That is what you are saying they should do, rather than realize a magic uprising will not come, and change is slow and laborious as opposed to fashionable, pithy, snarky phrasing.
Thats the reality the other person understands and you fail to.
You literally cannot reform the system if you hand republicans wins like you have.
Reform is a very very long ways away, and is slowed down every time the democrats lose, and therefore shift even further right.
You have it all backwards.
Reform is a path to failure.
What you're saying is that you're a defeatist, because I've seen not one of you scoping up our boy big brood bonker. Just tough words towards the people closest to you on the spectrum online, and so it continues to look like reform will be the only option.
As long as you continue not to put up, maybe its time to shut up while the people looking for practical solutions actually discuss and act on them.
Keep dreaming about this magic future the people you'd like to pretend are all neoliberals are doing their best to make it for you.
I'm not a defeatist, I'm not under the delusion that a system thats operating exactly as designed can be changed. Voters have zero leverage to make or force change. You've helped train them to know they can do anything they want with no consequences.
Then you are merely ignorant to the many changes the system has undergone or live in such a bubble you cant recognize the changes that don't slap you in the face.
Massive false equivalence/bothsiderism detected.
You don't actually want to help, so you come up with excuses to do nothing while feeling better than those who do because your ideas all start with someone else moving first.
You're putting a lot of words in my mouth.
The very first sentence is an insane line of reasoning considering that woke still has its meaning from the civil rights era to republicans, and they're just that bigoted whereas purity test is asking people to not be immature naive children getting other people killed by their idealism.
To say that liberals don't keep their candidates to any type of standards when liberals are the only party that has top people resigning after controversies errupt is brain dead idealism.
You saying you don't vote for or support democrats means you hate trans people, black people, Latino people, and all the other people who are being severely harmed by your childish inability to see nuance and accept pragmatism over fairytale idealism.
When it comes down to brass tacks Democrats don't support those marginalized communities anymore than Republicans. They use them as human shields to defend their shitty policies and use it to silence dissent that's harming everyone, they use them as background filler to give the illusion of inclusion, inclusion is not liberation.
If Democrats cared about Latinos they would have pushed back against their party when Biden pushed for the largest expansion of detention centers and the highest increase of federal funding they've ever received. Biden laid the ground work for what Trump is currently doing.
What you call pragmatism is lazy and causes more harm than you think you are doing.
When it comes down to the brass tacks???
Who the hell do you think is supporting marginalized people having the voter protections that everyone else gets?
Who do you think supports them not being discriminated against or even bothering to run studies on this information?
Who do you think are the people working to improve programs that often are mostly aimed at them, through a federal government that currently is basically gridlocked and only allows the controlling parties control over the purse in essence?
Your statement is baseless bothsiderism.
Once again, the republicans are literally actively discriminating against them, disappearing them off the street, doing forced sterilizations, and more.
Dafuq you mean they don't support them more?
Back up that statement, because I'm not seeing it.
Do you know what nuance is?
Do you know why democrats were doing that? Because people such as yourself seemed even less reachable to them than the morons and bigots that voted trump in. That was an attempt to compromise. A misguided attempt thinking that they would respond to facts and numbers.
No he fucking didn't. ICE is raiding primary schools and hiring like a silicon valley blitz scaling startup.
You only look for attempts at gotchas because you don't actually give a fuck about other people. You just want to feel right when making the world worse, pretending there is somehow any practical plan for the democrats to go from zero to hero in a day.
You ignore the real steps to achieving your goals, because it doesnt allow you to gloat while hurting other people, and its slow, unfun, and involves supporting people you feel are mid; you know, the things the actual leftists do gritting their teeth because they look up facts and don't say absurd shit like
You are so fucking far from your goal its a farce that you keep acting like there are direct steps towards it.
I want to live in Startrek as much as the next person, but that is not happening within my lifetime, or the lifetime of anyone born right now.
If only you and that same energy for holding your party accountable we wouldn't have had a senile pedo as president and an installed, like a monarchist, as first runner up when he bowed out. If liberals had listened to socialists and communists in 2016 there would have never been a trump problem. But instead of looking at the bigger picture they focused on 'first woman president'
Its interesting all of the so called "socialists" when their faux beliefs are called out in detail, just bark the same thing that has just been disproven, and pretend that if only exactly the platform of their dreams were run, in a sperical cow friction-less universe that doesnt exist, everything would be hunky dory.
Unfortunately we live in a real world with real constraints. The real world had what it had, and you chose to not participate, or even worse, support the bad guys because you didn't get your way.
You're attempted gotchas continue to be a way from you diverting from the fact you have absolutely no rebuttals for any of the many reasons that your core arguments don't work or criticisms of your rhetoric.
Liberals seem to hate that real world they helped build
Look at you with some more "I exist outside of politics" child like thinking.
By not participating, you fuel the worst, and don't make the least bad any better.
You have no arguments for this, you only have your fall back rhetoric, with no plans, no work, no substance.