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[-] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And the bootloader is now locked down across Samsung's ecosystem, as of this year. Sucks.

If you move to using an unsecured "chinaphone" as an alternative to the big three handset vendors, then it's unlikely they are target devices for the myriad of uncertified ROM's.

I think we are going to need software solutions that can run on major Androdis distributions across the variety of hardware.

I think we're going to need something like UTM or Docker (virtualization or containerization) for running our unsigned Android apps and services, and I don't know how feasible it will be.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If you move to using an unsecured "chinaphone" as an alternative to the big three handset vendors, then it's unlikely they are target devices for the myriad of uncertified ROM's.

Not following your logic here... With the mainstream devices now locked, "the myriad of uncertified ROMs" will necessarily shift to the remaining unlocked phones, or die out.

I think a viable future is owning two devices, one "certified" to access your banking and work apps, and one running GrapheneOS for your private life.

[-] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

ROMs rarely work as one-size-fits-all-devices, yeah?

I only know of four smartphone categories of phones that are really available in the markets around the world today, en masse.

  1. The big tentpole phones available from Samsung, Google, Moto, and maybe two other players.

  2. Boutique devices from vendors like Nothing and Fairphone with limited reach to global markets (like, being Euro only, or being only distributed in markets that can buy into they ideology, etc). Nearly all of them prices or is MOST humans' reach.

  3. Chinaphones. A mix of fly-by-night brands with ghost shifts in factories that make many varieties of phones with other people's designs, but have extremely limited first party support and probably zero ROM support from the global community ... And then the handful of tech markings like Xiami, HTC, Huawei, and anyone else that bends the knee to the CCP. Virtually no NA market penetration in this decade, and tremendous barrier for entry, for most of the Western world. Also, security issues galore.

  4. iPhones.

All that to say, I don't think a more featured OS existed it's the way forward, with people all jockeying to make new ROM's for everyone to NOT be able to run on their phones.

I'm hopeful folks smarter than I will be able to come in about the potential for sandboxes in it phones with their own capacity for running unsigned apps, like a virtualization platform.

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