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As inappropriate and watered down as it sounds, I honestly don't think this country is going to vote in a female president this decade. Race plays a part too, but I honestly think that this country is more sexist than it is racist when it comes to presidential voting. It's partially a gut feelings, but I think gender played a bigger role than many people think in the 2016 and 2024 elections. As messed up as it sounds, I think Bernie POTUS with AOC VP would stand a better chance of winning right now as opposed to the other way around. Even with all of the socialist/communist boogie-man bullshit that Bernie gets thrown at him.
I kinda agree, but crucially I think it's less that the country isn't ready to vote for a female president, it's that after Kamala and Hillary, the Dems think the issue is with them being women.
Also the republicans would have no issue voting in a woman if it was one of their own.
And also, Bernie is way too old to be president. I think the most realistic thing would be to put a """moderate""" dem on the ticket to help ease the pearl clutching from corporate Dems you would get by running AOC so someone like Waltz or Newsom.
I’ve said this before, but I listen to a politics podcast and one of their commentators was in the US for several weeks in the run-up to the last election. They said that over and over again they heard variations on “I hate Trump and everything he stands for, but I couldn’t trust the country to a woman”. That includes people who’d voted for Obama and Biden.
Obviously that wasn’t the only factor, and it doesn’t mean that AOC couldn’t win, but we definitely shouldn’t hand-wave it away, either.
ohh no, some would, but I don't even know it'd hit the majority in their own lines.
Bernie is too damn old, and to be fair too against what corporations want to get in, but jesus, have you heard him speak recently, you'd think it was in his late 60's at most and still sharp AF.
We need some youth in there. Bad.
I dunno about that race vs gender analysis.
Obama sent them into a racist rage, and thats what trump actually campaigned on/what people actually voted on.
Worse still, thats what hes delivering, and conservatives are mostly happy enough to make sacrifices if it means the dark skinned marginalized people get hurt.
Assuming we actually get a fair vote (not a chance in hell)
They'll run the same playbook they ran on Harris, it'll have a slightly different effect.
Like Harris, woman so no right winger will vote for her. They'll do an A/B push for Gaza - Israel, she'll go Gaza, they'll demonize her as Middle Eastern. Push as many jews over as they can. They'll start poking at her voting history try to disenfranchise the left.
She's not quite as soft as a target as Harris, and didn't have to back a bunch of right appeasing votes with Biden but they'll still make an effective target out of her.
The only fucking chance we have to get out of this is to push them hard AF to pick the best candidate they can and overwhelmingly vote for them, then do something about it when they say the results were fake and the real winner was orangespawn.