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[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not with any attitude.

These are the realities of the american political system.

To ignore those realities is to support many many people being discriminated against and potential dying.

You can't fix a system by ignoring it.

It is impossible, as in unlikely to the point that discussing it is counter productive, to start a new party, and win in the USA with its current system.

The presidency position is too powerful, gerrymandering, billionaire controlled media and voter suppression would make it too difficult to actually secure even one ounce of useful power in the house or congress, and you'd need to hit a critical mass quickly enough that fascism hadn't already taken over (you're already past this point).

Your only play, and I mean only, is somehow keeping democracy limping into 2026, campaigning your asses off for the democrats even though we all think they are mid, and somehow getting enough seats in the senate to impeach and remove trump.

There aren't really any other viable win conditions.

We can't just gleefully stick our heads in the sand and hope that wishful thinking cloud 9 dream idealistic goals will happen.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

If you really think im advocating for ignoring the system, then you have completely misinterpretted my comments lmfao

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

How do you figure? I have explained why creating your own party cannot possibly work, so how would that be anything other than ignoring the system to chase an impossible goal?

Is ignoring the abandonment of the actual mechanisms of reform not ignoring the system? I think I am pretty justified in interpreting it that way, but you didn't really expand and just game me a "Not with that attitude." with your last comment.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well you cant do anything close to what im proposing with that point of view so i just didnt see a point to continuing the conversation.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

If you require someone to simply immediately believe your lofty premise to continue a conversation, I question how genuine that conversation is.

I explained in detail the problems I saw with your, I believe, completely idealistic and unrealistic approach, and you kinda just went "nuh huh". that doesnt seem in good faith at all.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I pretty clearly said that i dont think youre worth conversing with lmfao. Take your "good faith" and shove it. Ill continue organizing and radicalizing the homies and you can continue licking boots, and we'll see who has the prettier smile in the end lmao

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You are simply hurting the cause you pretend to support by ignoring the only system you have in place to solve it.

It is simply impossible to get the amount of people needed for what you are talking about organized.

You'd need more than the third of maga voters.

It is crazy you aggressively eschew pragmatism/liken it to boot licking. Absurd, naive, and counterproductive behaviour.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Like i said, not worth conversing with. Not with that attitude lmfao

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

You've been the only one bring incivility to this conversation.

you refused to acknowledge any of my points when you disagreed.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Meh meh meh meh mehmehmeh

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