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9/11 definitely sped things up, but it was more that profits come before everything else, and it's profitable to sew division.
I'd argue that 9/11 was successful in destabilizing the US and the precipitating event in the rise of US fascism. Capitalist greed was the accelerant
We were already well on our way to a fascist capitalistic hellhole after Nixon and Regan. 9/11 just allowed the mask to come off of parts of the fascism and solidified the cycle of economic downturn every few years.
Everyone forgets the rise of domestic right wing terrorists through the 90s. If 9/11 did anything it was to delay it by a decade.
All their crazies got shipped off to Afghanistan and Iraq to commit war crimes there. America wasn't actively engaged in war since withdrawing from Iraq in 2011. Afghanistan was scaled back. It's no coincidence domestic issues came to the forefront over the ensuing decade.
Perhaps even the wars in the middle east trained a generation of extremists to be more violent.
We never solved the Civil War, which was caused because it was founded by rich, racist assholes.
We were fucked from the jump. Especially because we inherited Roman judicial process.
Very true, we were well on our way to fascism the moment we allowed nazis to live in the US after the war. The fascism of the US today is the centuries of imperialism turned inward in order to save capitalism from crisis
Personally, I think it is the other way around. The Heritage Foundation existed long before 9/11. They just needed a way to offer centrists plausible deniability for handing over the reins of power.
I’d argue that isn’t exactly what they wanted… it’s like chopping down a tree and it lands on your house. Not ideal.
Also that russia has spent a boatload of money and effort to make this happen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
And this is also what the billionaires want so they can be neofuedal kings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
Capitalism certainly would have gotten there regardless, but there was more than just money pushing it along. Lust for power never fails to aid humanity in taking steps backwards