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School employee dies after being kicked in the chest by 14-year-old student
(www.independent.co.uk)
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How hard were they trying to restrain someone just for leaving a building? I can see extreme measures for someone armed making threats or actively harming themselves, but if they want to leave the building surely there were better options.
That was my first thought too. Physically restraining a person, especially a minor, and even more especially a minor with trauma, is a very serious thing. It was strange to me the article had nothing about why the girl needed to be physically restrained.
But I'm also more suspicious about it because it's American, I've seen (in the news) so many examples of insane authoritarianism in American institutions, where even doing your hair in a non traditional white manner is considered grounds to be expelled.
And numerous cases of calling the police on children "to teach them a lesson"!!!
American conditions in institutions are insane just like they are in the rest of American society. because USA as a nation has gone more and more sociopathic and authoritarian over the past 40 years. Might makes right is just one issue, and I suspect the one that could have been at play here? It is quite telling IMO that the colleague doesn't blame the girl.
It is also weird that she is just described as "a staff member" indicating she has no special training with these sorts of children!
She may have done her best according to her abilities, but this reeks of an institutional failure.
Absolutely.
I've dealt with some of these schools. You have untrained staff literally yelling, "Do your work now!" To a room full of kids with ODD and others. Then sit back and wonder why it's not working. Their solution when they become dysregulated is to lock them in solitary confinement until they, calm down.
It's garbage. It doesn't work. It is institutional failure, because, well, profits over everything in the United States.
This isn't a normal American school, it's an place where shitty parents send their unruly kids to be abused.
Which requires specially trained personnel here. But apparently an education that doesn't even exist in USA?
https://www.ug.dk/videregaaende-uddannelser/professionsbacheloruddannelser/paedagog
I used a translator for the first paragraph:
This place seems to be a troubled teen "School" probably pulling from fucking Elan. TLDR historically troubled kids were chucked at military school or farming/ranching schools which were closer to residential technical schools than anything else, then came the boom of psychology and a bunch of fuckwads opened up troubled teen schools which can vary from kinda okay nature retreat facilities to batshit insane religious schools which mentally break kids. These places are closer to native American/Aboriginal residential "schools" than anything else and I'm not convinced aren't somehow directly related.
It's absolutely insane, here a "pædagog" education is required, and English doesn't even have a word for that! But suggests kindergarten teacher.
https://www.ug.dk/videregaaende-uddannelser/professionsbacheloruddannelser/paedagog
I used a translator for the first paragraph:
A pædagog is trained to work with both children and grown ups.
WTF America? how can you not have a term and an education for that?
We actually do have the same word with a different meaning behind it. I'm just gonna link the Webster site for this one. Since it has little to do with the greater point I shall make.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedagog
Regardless we do have a term for these usually it'll be something along the lines of "education councilor" or something vaguely similar depending on what they actually specialize in. We do have folks educated in such contexts be it social workers, guidance councilor, or some other such naming, they just aren't focused on culturally.
Also don't assume that just cause English and especially American English dialects doesn't have dedicated words for a concept doesn't mean we don't have the concept. English is at times worse than the other Germanic tongues when it comes to compound wording to the point that some of our words have outright been lost because the compound was more useful.
Edit: Just to add to my point, a lot of these "schools" circumnavigate legal requirements. That's not even accounting for corruption or political alignment creating cut outs for these facilities. Fun fact unless something has changed Utah has the highest number of these shit holes, because there's nothing more morally corrosive and abusive than Mormons with money.
Most likely what the minor did to need to be physically restrained is covered by privacy laws.
What the minor did is covered by privacy, but not that she kicked a person so she died?
Veeery convenient.
It clearly says why, whether or not you agree it was necessary.
Stating she wasn't allowed to leave is not a reason, why she wasn't allowed to leave would be the reason.
But trying to leave a house is not basis at all for restraining a person, even if you are told not to.
Sounds like a power-trip to me.
If it’s a school for troubled kids, it could very well be to protect the student during the hours they’re supposed to be there, and to protect people outside from them. Letting a raging and troubled person out into the world does not seem healthy or safe. Seems logical to me. They were doing their jobs: protecting the students and other people from the students.
My guess is the grounds around a "residential therapeutic school" are owned by the school.
That would generally be pretty standard for that kind of place.