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[-] Ascrod@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

Please read the image description:

A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent points a crowd control weapon at a protester Tuesday

It's not a real gun with live ammunition as the post title subtly implies.

"Non-lethal" weapons to the face are still not good, but police and ICE have been doing this for a while. It's not new.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

Those weapons are not non-lethal, less lethal.

[-] Ascrod@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

The gun shoots stuff that can kill, especially at that range. Shut up.

[-] Ascrod@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

I'm well aware of that.

The point is that this title is bait. ICE has been pointing (and shooting) at peoples' faces all year with rubber bullets, tear gas, and other crowd control weapons. This title makes it sound as if they're waving live rounds around in this picture.

If that distinction doesn't matter to you, then you are free to happily go about your day without giving it a second thought.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

That's a stupid distinction because either will kill at that distance aimed where they are.

[-] Ascrod@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Right, but ICE has been doing this for a while. It's bad, but it's not new. As far as I'm aware, ICE hasn't brandished or used live rounds in close quarters (as in this picture) yet.

I think the distinction is important because if ICE starts using live rounds on protesters, people are going to start retaliating with live rounds. Then we're in full-on mask-off civil war territory, no more pretending. Blurring that distinction is playing with fire, IMO.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Dude police shoot people all the time.

They treat a gun shaped item as a gun, with live ammunition all the time.

"As far as you are aware" is worth nothing.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'll remember that when my life flashes before my eyes when somebody shoves this in my face.

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