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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[-] Auth@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago

Phew, for a second I thought Framework had actually done something bad. But its just supporting Hyprland which is somehow considered a far right racist project because an unpaid moderator was transphobic in a discord server. People are really trying to squeeze everything they can from this discord drama that happened years ago.

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago

Or, you know, they are sponsoring a) a white supremacists who believes in the white replacement conspiracy theory who's in charge of omarchy and b) the project lead of (not just a discord mod) of hyperland. Two awful people that Framework absolutely deserve flack for supporting.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It’s only Hyperland, not ~~the distro~~ Omarchy.

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It's both projects, lead by two different problematic people that Framework are sponsoring.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 15 points 4 weeks ago

They explicitly stated that they provided free hardware to Omarchy

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 weeks ago
[-] TwiddleTwaddle 23 points 4 weeks ago

Yes? How could it not be?

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 11 points 4 weeks ago

There's this huge movement in online spaces lately to bash any and all positions and opinions by calling them transphobic.

Vote right? Transphobic. Vote left? Transphobic. Abstain from voting? Transphobic. Support a company? Transphobic. Boycott a company? Transphobic. Indifferent about a company? Transphobic.

The simplest explanation is a bunch of right-wingers are trying to make the term meaningless. Anyway, nowadays when I hear someone is transphobic, I make sure to wait for solid evidence before changing my opinions.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 40 points 4 weeks ago

Vote right? Transphobic.

That is correct.

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yes agreed but if you read the whole thing...

There are people in online spaces that just slap the term on ANY opinion.

Want to form a coalition with moderates? Must be transphobic. Refuse to vote Dem because they're not progressive enough? Must be transphobic.

Bluesky is overrun with them. I'd hoped to find a place here where simply existing wasn't stigmatized, but these downvotes are telling me maybe Reddit is overrun too...

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 4 weeks ago

"where simply existing wasn't stigmatized"... Yeah I think that's what most people want including immigrants and trans people. You might need to take a good hard look at yourself for seemingly arguing that a project making it's own community an unsafe space for people is fine but you're the victim because people on blue sky called one too many things transphobic.

Other than that your sob story makes it sound like you're a problematic person and I doubt I'm alone in thinking that. I don't ever remember seeing an excessive amount of accusations of transphobia on bluesky, let alone reddit since it's 80% Russian bots. So maybe, just maybe, the problem is you. Do you maybe have opinions that regularly get you called a transphobe? At least, that's how I read your victim story.

[-] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 30 points 4 weeks ago

I get your point with the rest but...

Vote right? Transphobic.

Yeah, it kinda is? That's a core plank of the MAGA platform; it's practically inseparable. Unless you're talking non-USA parties but then there's still a better chance than none it's a yes.

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 weeks ago

I don't even think it "kinda is" I think it fully is. Trans rights are currently against tradition and the status quo, this makes trans rights a progressive topic until the day that trans people are so established in the history of a society that it can't be argued being trans is some new disorder or something.

I hope that one day Trans rights will have been so established globally that to challenge them is anti tradition and uncouth

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

If you read the rest you'll discover that the reactionaries don't care how you vote, they'll call you that regardless.

I'm taking from the downvotes that there are a lot of people here who got caught up on those first few words and didn't bother reading the rest or engaging their critical thinking skills...

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

When someone uses "critical thinking skills" or "common sense" they sure always seem to be on the wrong side of history.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago

People who vote for a particular party generally don't agree with 100% of that party's platform. Just because someone voted for a party that has transphobia-motivated policies doesn't mean they are transphobic. The correlation may be high, but it's far from 100%.

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You're right, they are just performing hateful acts towards trans people, they may be doing it out of laziness or ignorance rather than actually hating trans people. As we all know, materially helping an anti trans cause doesn't mean you hate trans people in the same way materially helping terrorists doesn't make you a terrorist. Ex: our friends and allies in Saudi Arabia.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

Voting isn't a hateful act. Any insinuation of that needs to stop.

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Voting can absolutely be a hateful act, I literally can't imagine what happens in your brain that makes you think otherwise. The entire US 2024 election was hate vs not-the-hate-guy. A vengeance fantasy for middle aged white men.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

No, if you think that, your brain is twisted by whatever spin your preferred media choice puts on.

The 2024 election was more about people wanting to see change, and one candidate clearly offering it and the other clearly not. Look at Harris' polling timeline, she was doing well up until the beginning of October, so what happened? For example, she wouldn't change anything from Biden's first term, except having a Republican in the cabinet. Trump took that and ran with that, and I think that describes her support dropping around that time. People were unhappy with Biden's first term, and she wouldn't say anything bad about it. I didn't watch the 60 minutes interview, but I'm guessing that went similarly.

I think most thought Trump was mostly rhetoric except the couple things they cared about. I think most thought he was bluffing about tariffs (or thought they'd work differently), thought he'd actually bring prices down, etc, which explains his cratering support so far. The average voter is kinda dumb/naive, but I don't think they were largely voting on hate against immigrants, trans people, etc.

[-] thundermoose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

I don't think you can advocate for anything even remotely on the "right" in political discussions anymore unless you mean MAGA. That well is so poisoned at this point that everyone is going to assume you're a MAGA troll wearing a mask the second you voice any right-leaning opinion.

It's pretty unfortunate. There are plenty of "live and let live" types in the US that identify informally as libertarians and would make great allies.

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