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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Idgaf about audio quality.

Valid. Back in the mid-2010s, it was a prominent (and very strong) argument against removing the jack.

I don't have to charge wired headphones

Also valid, although even budget wireless earbuds advertise 24+ hours of battery life. Mine advertise 30, and after over a year of usage, I'd say they get me through an entire day of uninterrupted moderate usage (no going back in the case) no problem. The case usually has a few full earbud charges and charges them very quickly, and at least my case charges via USB-C or wirelessly and doesn't take long.

It's less of an interruption and more of a fixed, very small factor in a nightly or binightly routine. Realistically, the lifespan of a baked-in lithium-ion battery is a headache, but to me, the battery life never has been. It can't beat no charging, but having to recharge the earbuds is something I'm barely even cognizant of.

and the port is designed to spin unlike a dumbass dongle plugged into a USB c port.

I'm trying to remember the last time I had to readjust the rotation of a headphone cable on the bottom of the phone (top of the phone definitely sometimes, though). If you really need to, the tip of the cable can still be rotated inside the dongle. I can't imagine this being an actual problem unless your use case is as a fidget toy.

Let alone the environmental considerations.

Shipping an audio jack that 95%+ of users will not ever touch with every phone sounds at least as environmentally unfriendly as the rare purchase of a 3.5 mm-to-USB-C dongle. The environmental consideration of the baked-in lithium-ion battery is definitely worse, but you also don't have to use that or the dongle; good wired earbuds/headphones with a USB-C cable exist.

It's again totally your choice to factor the jack into what phone you buy, but the jack is and will remain dead in the mainstream – now finally with decent reason – and no amount of being a vocal minority to Fairphone about how it's too hard to spin your headphone cable is likely to change that.

I'm very likely the minority, but the reason I still have a phone with jack is that my custom mold in-ear, well... is wired (I'm a musician).

I don't want to use a different headphone for hearing music, as this is a really good monitor (actually I think it has cost me 10x as much as the used phone I'm driving it with (LG V30)). An external DAC is annoying, as this for one drains the battery pretty heavily and - fewer adapters less worries...

There's other reasons why you don't want to use bluetooth, namely latency, although probably less important, for applications where this is really relevant, you would use a dedicated audio interface anyways... Or well, just the fact that I know of a few people already that they lost their bud(s), quite a bit more difficult if everything is wired together.

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