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[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 27 points 20 hours ago

People voted for a guy that said he would stand up for Canada after Trumps deranged threats. Instead they got a zionist worm that folds at the slightest whisper of "tariff".

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 27 points 18 hours ago

Ah yes, as we saw in the US the best thing to do when a left-leaning leader isn't as harsh on Israel as we'd like is to swing our support over to the right-leaning leader.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Trump won because Americans was fooled by his promise of fixing the economy and Carney will lose for the same reason next time and like in the USA they will be people who claim that Palestine is the reason he lost and the other side with complain about how anti occupation people are the reason Carney lose

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Is that what the poster said? This isn't America, we have 3rd and even 4th and 5th parties to choose from. There's no reason to vote for the zionist if you want a principled anti-Zionist party like the NDP.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We have 4 major parties. BC only care about quebec npd was destroyed in the last election. We sre not in the same situation as the USA

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago

The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a "spoiler" that helps out a party that doesn't align ideologically with the voter who's casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.

Thanks, first-past-the-post.

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your "strategic voting". All it's done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago

It's not my decision, unfortunately. It's a structural feature that's inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don't vote strategically then you are "throwing your vote away" whether you believe it or not.

Canada's been fortunate in having some ridings where a national "third party" was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it's a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn't ultimately a question of "Liberal or Conservative?" Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.

I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau's greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada's last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don't like it doesn't mean I can't recognize the actual situation we're facing.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 47 minutes ago

I consider Trudeau's greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada's last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate.

This is worth all the upvotes in this discussion.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago

It’s working out great down here!

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