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[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 110 points 4 days ago

Owls don't weigh 16 pounds (except for fat owls). 300 kilowatts is a rate of energy, not a total quantity of energy. 300 kilowatt hours (which is possibly what they meant?) Is only around 260,000 kilocalories (which is called "calories" on food labels because units of measure were made up by humans). According to an extremely naive google search, that would only take an owl 5 years to consume, rather than 10. If the original number were correct, that would mean this owl eats 8,000 calories per day. Which is not typical.

Onto the broader point, the efficiency of birds in flight is not as simple as this image suggests. There is no (useful) formula that takes the weight of a bird and the distance it will fly and tells you how many calories that takes. Birds can fly at different elevations, at different speeds. They can fly with or against the wind. They can change many things about how they fly to be more efficient or less efficient.

If you really want to know how many calories it takes for an owl to cross the ocean, first get the owl to the point of starvation, then bring it on a boat to the middle of the ocean. Feed it a fixed number of Tootsie pops, then sink the boat. With nowhere else to land, the owl will be forced to fly to shore. Based on how far the owl makes it, you can determine how far each tootsie pop allowed it to fly, and derive calories per mile from that.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

PLEASE DON'T starve the owl! There is another way: metabolism rate is proportional to the number of O₂ + hydrocarbons → CO₂ + H₂O reactions in the body, which can be measured as the amount of CO₂ created during respiration. For humans, the CO₂ concentration in exhaled air is close to constant, so by inhaling through the nose and exhaling through the mouth into a bag (and not consciously hyper- or hypoventilating), one can get a very good measurement of one's metabolism rate in different scenarios (and the lag is seconds, not hours for nutrition!). This is obviously way more difficult to do with a flying owl (even in a wind tunnel) but perhaps a surgically inserted airflow meter could work, or a closed-loop wind tunnel with very precise measurement of O₂/CO₂ levels. Yes, a flying owl has CO₂ emissions, and so does a running human, but way less than a combustion engine.

Another idea is to measure the carbon and water emitted as weight loss (yes, you lose weight by breathing) but there are other factors that could skew the results such as sweat evaporation, skin shedding etc.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago

Just to add to your comment: calories in itself were a pretty good measurement for metabolic energy, because it is the energy needed to heat 1 gram of water by 1 °C, so something easily measurable to people at the time (roughly 100 years ago). The Joule was already proposed, but is less intuitive.

[-] three@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

No one ever looks at the community before replying anymore, huh?

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago

Did we read the same comment?

[-] three@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't read comments I have to scroll 2 pages for, especially in the shitposting community.

[-] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago

It’s hard to not answer, even if you know it.

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