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submitted 4 days ago by pep@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I have 2 GOP parents, one that voted Trump originally and one that did not. Over the last 9 years, I have watched them both travel down the MAGA pipeline to become visibly fascist. The parents who taught me racism was wrong and to have empathy for others, have become openly hostile about immigrants, Muslims, and even parrot the Nazi "great replacement" theory.

Part and parcel with this, they refuse to have any discussions about the facts -- like immigrants not stealing and eating people's pets. They won't hear it, they won't even engage in the conversation...they just get angry and loud the second they hear anything that doesn't fit into the Fox News narrative. Can you relate? How are you dealing with it in your relationships with your parents?

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[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I call bullshit on this. Education does not, in fact, "go both ways."

Generally, in western society, we accept the idea that adults should be responsible for themselves, with exceptions for those who are physically or mentally unable to do so. We value principles of autonomy and personal responsibility, so we're generally expected to do the work of educating ourselves (or paying someone for their help) in adulthood.

When a person has a child, they make a choice to be a parent and to take on the responsibility to raise that child. Of course, we know that not everyone follows through on that responsibility.

That person's child has not been given any choice. They should not be required to take responsibility for their parent(s) just because of the accident of their birth. Many children choose to care for their parents in their old age for various reasons, usually for love or money.

As a society, we agree that we owe protection, education, and the fulfillment of needs to our children ... because we choose to bring those children into the world and because we need them to perpetuate the social order we rely on.

Those children do not, when they become adults, automatically owe the same things back to the full-grown adults who raised them. Generally, we expect them to provide stability for their elders by contributing to the social and economic order, mostly by paying taxes and keeping infrastructure functional.

Parents are able to control aspects of their children's lives in order to raise them in what they deem to be appropriate ways. Children don't get "a turn" to control all of the same aspects of their parents' lives. My mother kept me from playing video games and watching MTV as a teen because she thought it would "rot your brain." But as much as I'd love to, I can't keep her from watching Fox (or NewsMax, or OAN, or TBN, or whatever she's on this week).

Some people might choose to try to reverse the effects of 20+ years of a 24-hour propaganda machine brainwashing their parents out of love or a sense of familial duty, or whatever. And that's admirable.

But I absolutely reject the idea that it's somehow "my turn" to "educate" 20+ years of Fox News programming out of my aging conservative parents.

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