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Imagine running an excavator with a hard hat on like you don't have ROPS/FOPS.
"ROPS (Roll-Over Protective Structure) and FOPS (Falling Object Protective Structure) are safety features integrated into heavy machinery to protect operators."
For everyone else unfamiliar with those acronyms!
Thank you!!
You do realize everyone has to wear a hard hat on a construction site by osha safety standards right?
I'm googling OSHA and it seems to be some American thing, not a global rule?
Don't other countries have their own Oshas just called Something else?
If you are talking globally then using a country specific name for it seems confusing
But just because you are talking on a global forum doesn't mean you can't talk about your personal experience
You were talking to someone else though, not just saying how it is for you
What do you mean? We're just describing what we see in the picture and how it compares to our lived experience.
Does your country have an osha or can people go to construction sites without hardhats, or do you have a regulating body but hardhats aren't required / the rules aren't enforced?
Saying OSHA is like saying Kleenex to us, we don't even realize it is a brand name. It has become the generic term in our en_us language anyway.
You were saying "I hope you realize that OSHA requires it" or whatever and that's kinda hostile and weird since you don't even know if they are American/have OSHA so what relevance does your stuff have to them
My tenuous guess, Scandi/Germanic... But that's just her in the cab.
I don't know the machinery well enough to hazard a guess.
But even if still there, then yeah, there'd for sure be safety regs insisting on hard hats all the time on site.
Then it's better to say that than try to be snarky about OSHA
I enjoyed their pedantry.
Always good to remind Americans the rest of the world exists. ;-)
That's what the FOPS is for.
Sure it is a redundant protection but as a longtime journey level construction worker I can tell you you still have to wear a hard hat on construction sites anywhere on site
As a long time equipment operator who puts their hard hat on only outside of the equipment, okay.
I know in my area this hard hat rule is strictly enforced.
Do we have Americans (no rules) vs Canadians (actual safety) going on in this discussion?
Sometimes Canada goes overboard. In Ontario you need to wear a hard hat to plant trees.
Safety does not apply to immigrants.
No offense but we just moved from everyone on a construction site needs one to the construction sites in your area needs one.
I wouldn't have disagreed with you if you started with that.
I know cal osha requires everyone at all times needs a hard hat on a construction site. I don’t work small private residential cal osha may be more strict on bigger jobs but it is an osha requirement here so I assumed it was a federal osha policy. I know it was definitely covered in my osha 10 and OSHA 30 courses. I was also an instructor for my trade union and this is what is taught in the nationwide union curriculum and yes any heavy equipment we use we have to wear a hard hat while operating nationwide In my trade.
I’ve never worked a small private residential construction job in my life.
You still wear your cup throughout the whole shift though right?
FOPS isn’t going to help if one of those violent criminals tomahawk-throws a framing hammer at your head!
I, for one, for sure, would be grateful for the hard hat in a ROPS event. Even a FOPS event.
You’d need a chin strap for the hat to stay on if you’re upside down.
True.
Especially when wearing one that's too big and loose.
Could be in and out of the machine often at a site/plant that requires it outside and doesn't bother to take it off?
The reality is that it's probably a photoshoot
Yup. Beat me to it. In and out, easiest place to keep it, still on your head.
I can just imagine it now. Me, in my little hard hat, on a big ol excavator, paying no mind to the ROPS/FOPS overhead, completely safe from all the debris that wants nothing more than to crack open my noggin, excavating to my hearts content!
Oh what a day that would be!
Imagine getting out of the excavator to go to the loo and getting hit in the head by a brick.
Imagine not putting on a hard hat when you’re no longer protected by ROPS/FOPS.
I cannot find my glasses when I am wearing them. I don't think I am going to put a hardhat on when I forgot I am not wearing it.
You need pretty good situational awareness in construction, doubly so when you’re operating heavy equipment.
And the hat doesn't even have a strap