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Ah, so real life then.
Yes, it certainly bears semblance to my first 9 months in solitary confinement, before the hag dragged me out from her wretched womb. Curse you vile woman!
BigDanishGuy, I said no toys at the table.
This isn't a toy, it's a revolution! proudly waves the vibrator
Yeah, never heard them called mud bees. Only ever heard them as dirt / mud daubers, and they're very obviously wasps.
They don't hurt as much as you'd think, but you'll still feel it for a day or two
My grandma used to tell me they don't sting so I wouldn't freak out when one was near me. Little kid me was a gullible fool.
They can sting, but they (anecdotally) sting less readily than some other species of wasps. I've been around them all my life and never have been stung. But, I've never intentionally messed with them. On the other hand, I've been stung by a couple other species that were far less patient with my presence in their general area.
mud daubers usually are as far from aggressive as yellow jackets are assholes.
I'm ngl I also been told that and believed it. I don't really feel very gullible since I've never actually been stung by one? Even destroying their nests doesn't seem to make them aggressive.
Lol my dad did the same. I never got stung tho and avoided some anxiety
Full of spiders.
I hate cleaning these up because they're fucking spider piñatas. Yeah the spiders are dead by then, but just, fucking eww.
So there are 2 on my porch that desperately need to be cleaned up, anyone?
Shop vac?
You still kinda have to smash them with a mallet.
Or even grosser melt them with a wet rag :(
nah fam i will pass
Does it come with a cask of good wine?
You speculated correctly. The brood cannot escape. I even found a scientific paper about it: it: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328054285_A_Fatal_Nest_Construction_Man-mixed_Cement_Used_by_Mud-daubing_Wasps
Bees are technically a kind of wasp.
If I am understanding the chart here correctly, bees are not a type of wasp. Bees, wasps, ants, and sawflies are all Hymenopterans, but distinct from each other.
That graph does contain bees among wasps.
To be specific, bees are a "Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa" of wasps, since they are within Apocrita.
The common-language definition of wasp is literally "A member of Apocrita ... except bees (and ants)".
It's the same situation as saying a chicken is a dinosaur, and why the field often uses "non-avian dinosaurs" instead for clarity.
This wikipedia diagram from the Aculeata article is a bit more concise:
Take now for example Stephanoidea, "a superfamily of parasitic wasps within the Apocrita". Clearly wasps, yet equally closely related to yellow-jackets and honey-bees.
Edit: mixed up Aculeata and Aulacidae. Edit2:
If you go further into Apoidae, even there you still find plenty more "clearly wasp" type species:
Take Sphecidae:
Or Philanthidae:
All on the same level as actual bees (Anthophila).
I think also in terms of vibes it feels right to call bees a subset of wasps.