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[-] DarkAri 10 points 1 day ago

If you don't believe in free speech and human rights. You are not a socialist, you are an authoritarian. It's not complicated. The DPRK is also not a democracy btw. It's almost like authoritarians (fascist) just pretend to be whatever is popular to keep power. One of the quintessential aspects of fascism.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

Small nitpicks: You can be socialist and authoritarian; it's just stupid. Also not all authoritarians are fascists. Fascism is specifically authoritarianism springing from far-right ultranationalism with a focus on the restoration of past glory and purging of undesirables from society.

[-] DarkAri 1 points 1 day ago

You can't be socialist and authoritarian. Socialism at its core is a form of radical democracy. Authoritarianism is the polar opposite of democracy. Fascism is total state power and far right nationalism, your definition is pretty close. Fascist also famously just do anything to get power. Everything is about power to them. This is why Hitler called himself a socialist even while purging socialists and communists from Germany. Stalin was also a fascist in many ways, absolute total state power and absolutely no human rights above the interests of the state, and I would would call him moderate, not really left or right. He had many right wing traits. Was an imperialist, heavily stamped down on human freedom and basic dignity under the state, and he made communism basically the state religion, where all children were taught political education at a young age. It is almost exactly like any other right wing authoritarian despot except for the fact he had some actual socialism, like government housing, breaking up corporations, even going so far as to basically abolish the free market and seizing all land from everyone to use for the states purposes. There isn't much difference. They are very vague terms. I argue with actual fascists sometimes who try to describe it as syndicalist nationalism but they always leave out the stuff about the state being total and absolute, and people losing all their rights, even the preferred ethnicity or whatever, and the worship of the state and divine leader like Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin. They also leave out facts like for some reason once every fascist society, the people there think they are both somehow the superior race and culture, but also victimized to no end. How they both think of themselves as Supermen and also as extremely weak. It's basically a schizo ideology. Hitler was on meth and stuff, everyone knows this. Something he shares in common with 25% of Americans.

That's where I think fascism really comes from, Adderall btw. It is well understood that amphetamine abuse causes schizophrenic like symptoms. One thing many people in Germany had in common in the 1930s was a very high level of amphetamine abuse.

[-] dogbert@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

These people do not read. They get by on vibes and buzzwords.

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