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I wonder what the rapture equivalent is?
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we don't "wait" for a revolution nor do we expect it to magically fix anything.
but i guess it's easier to be ignorant than to at least learn what leftism even is.
We do wait for material conditions to align (our own or our community's). Movements needs a cataclyst. Not every moment is ripe for sweeping change.
And we absolutely expect revolutions to improve life dramatically - often simply by removing the corrupt oligarchs mismanaging the system.
But these are pragmatic approaches to economic management, not magical resolutions to human world events.
It's easier to believe in the End of the World for some people than the End of Capitalism.
you added some nuance.
we do, but we do need a critical mass of people, our interests aligned, and to be prepared to swiftly seize the opportunity. all of that's easier said, and needs a lot of work.
in the medium-long term though, right? I don't really expect my country to be rebuilt overnight, but i can see how we'd start having something reasonable in the decade post revolution, if all goes right. socialism often has to be born from the ashes of scorched-earth capitalism.
preach. i think it's one of our biggest obstacles tbh.
Nah I've studied political science at the graduate level and this is pretty much spot on.
I studied psychology at a graduate level and have decided that you’re schizophrenic
... sarcasm, right?
you don't, and that's good, but that doesn't make it universal. as for the split between these 2 types, idk so I won't even guess
true, but it's ok to take the needed time though. life gets in the way, people work long hours, and helping build a movement is a lot of work.
i'm sure aspiring MLs always have this at the back of their minds, because practicing ones are always pretty insistent on telling people to organize and adjust expectations.
Bingo. In my experience people hear "revolution is necessary" and tune out the rest. Expectations need to be grounded, organizing is boring yet necessary.
There definitely are those that do though I think
And tbh I think the more relevant thing that is pointed out here are those that call anyone doing any sort of electoralism/reformism liberals who are worthless. Which, yea, by itself isn't gonna fully fix society but I'd at least rather people suffer less in the meantime
electoralism is disencouraged because the game is rigged. often when you really get into it, there is truly not much difference between the candidates policy-wise.
and if the ruling class wants fascism, they will bend the rules until they get it. i mean, trump was supposed to be in prison, isn't he? didn't he even lose the popular vote in his first term?
i've seen it play out in my country over and over again. genuine-sounding people like mamdani eventually gets de-winged, or removed if they flail too much.