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I wonder how the vatniks will twist this into NATO being the bad guys again.
I can see it now "more nato aggression! Of course russia needed to defend itself by invading a sovereign country!"
"What was russia doing in NATO airspace?" "They just got lost! Jesus! Cant you take a joke?"
NATO's only function has been to asset the US's military dominance in Europe.
As a result, the EU is much less militarily prepared now than it was before because of over-reliance on the US... which has now turned its back on the EU.
So yeah, NATO has always been the bad guys (and the same goes for Russia under Putin).
Geopolitics is not black-and-white.
Okay buddy baka.
So who are to good guys? Lmao
There are no good guys.
the good guys are people defending their country from military incursion
in this particular case (or rather ukraine, poland, estonia), in every conceivable situation, russia are the bad guys and nato are absolutely the good guys
has nato done some disagreeable shit in the past? sure! absolutely! there’s your grey: nato aren’t always the cut and dry good guys… but in this case… cut and dry: russia can fuck right off and nato is a force for good
Russia announced that they would invade if Ukraine moved to join NATO. Who should we blame, the state that set clear boundaries, or the state that was recklessly told to break the boundaries?
Furthermore, according to a former international monitor from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), Ukraine is the party to blame for the breakdown of the previous agreement, not Russia.
The "Russia bad" narrative only makes sense if you start the story on february 2022 and refuse to learn anything about the context leading up to the SMO.
You sound like you're defending the guy who said he hit his wife because she wouldn't listen.
Childishly inadequate comparison.
There's a world of difference between domestic abuse, and allowing an hostile alliance to encircle your country.
Furthermore, I recommend listening to the interview I linked above: Ukraine and Russia had a bilateral agreement together, that Ukraine broke. This is according to a french former monitor of the OSCE.
You're only really opposed to an alliance hostile to you invading them if you plan to invade them and I don't really give a fuck about someones imperialist feelings at that point.
Then why are you trying to defend NATO?
Do you understand the concept of encirclement?
Ah ok you're just a troll lmao
In this war there clearly is. Also in ww2 where there clearly was an evil bad guy alliance though the forces of east also are only 95 points of 100 on evil scale