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Hello guys, today I wanted to talk about a project I deeply care about and I'm actively contributing to, as I believe its good for everyone, including privacy concerned users

Ladybird Browser

This browser comes from the project "SerenityOS", and has since evolved and separated from it. The founders are Andreas Kling, and Chris Wanstrath. The main goal of this project is to create a browser from scratch, avoiding chromium, gecko, etc. The main keypoints that should be of interest for Privacy Oriented Users are the following:

  • Ladybird lead (Andreas Kling) states "We're not monetizing users, in any way. This is uncharted territory for browsers. So we're not going to do any default search deals. We're not going to do cryptocurrencies or try to monetize user data, just sponsorships and donations"

  • While** Ladybird will implement current web standards including cookie handling and tracking mechanisms for compatibility**, the browser's philosophy puts the user in control of these decisions, not the company. The browser won't have built-in incentives to encourage data collection since it doesn't profit from it.

  • It aims to be "free from advertising's influence" Ladybird, representing a shift away from the current web ecosystem where users like us are the product. This allows the project to implement privacy features without worrying about harming advertising partners or revenue streams.

As of now, the project has hired several developers with money coming from donations, from partners such as FUTO, Shopify, Cloudflare, among many, and is also seeing lots of volunteer activity on github. So well, if you like the web having more diversity and us having another alternative to google, check them out https://ladybird.org/

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[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago
[-] drosophila 40 points 2 weeks ago
[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tocano@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This graph is terrible for proving your point. Which browsers are ... ?

  • building a new engine and/or rewritting old code; instead of just being another fork/reskin of browser xyz;
  • still active, with expectations of continuing for the next few years; with funding from people and companies;
  • doing rapid advances towards being a good enough replacement of Chrome, Firefox, Safari;

This graphs says nothing of that.

edit: autocorrect

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, i could have included a link to wikipedia "list of web browsers" if I wanted to provide all that information. Its not hard to find.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers

Enjoi reading about all 135 or so browsers in that list.

[-] dsilverz@calckey.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

@9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world @drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone wow, I knew Lynx was old, but I didn't know how that old, thinking how it's older than NCIS Mosaic! TIL

Also, why did it stop at the beginning of 2023? Shouldn't the line for Lynx continue up to nowadays? Lynx still exists nowadays, there's even a Lynx 2.9.2 released on May 31, 2024.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Too much to keep up with ig. Im sure this graphic will be updated to a 2025 version at some point.

[-] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, this graphic is not relevant here.
HTML is the standard, ladybird isn't changing the standard, they're creating a web browser to comply with the standard.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They're creating their own web browsing privacy standard

[-] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 weeks ago

If you want it to sound bad you got to try harder.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ok, how does this sound.

Privacy that is funded by giant corporations who provide man-in-the-middle services to 19.3% of the internet's websites.

[-] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That does not mean it won't be compliant with the current standard.

You're really channeling the scumbag depicted in your avatar with your disingenuous framing of this project's mere existence as a bad thing.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I never said it won't be compliant with web standards. I said it will have its own privacy standards. You're really channeling the scumbag depicted in my avatar by twisting up my words.

Im not saying they should halt the project. Im not sayin we don't need more browsers. Im not saying this is doomed to fail. Im not saying it will succeed.

But its another browser among hundreds of other browsers. They're all mostly compliant with web standards.

[-] _donnadie_@feddit.cl 14 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, currently most web browsers are based either in Firefox or chromium. In the past Opera used to have its own engine, and the same applied for other browsers.

I'm fine with current efforts on ladybird and servo.

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but in this situation it's like, going from 3.5 standards to 4.5.

[-] shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

We as of now don't have an issue with having too many browsers (we have to many chromium and firefox forks), but not independent browsers.

Also, ladybird started of trying to build all libraries from scratch, leading to the problem you mention, but they rectified, now they are doing all browser related, but using common libraries for stuff that isnt a browser competency per se

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