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[-] Tristus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It is not correct. There is a movement in Germany that is called Anti-Deutscher (anti German) they refuse to call themselves Germans and refuse identify themselves as such. As you all can think there are many people that doesn't like them (main reason being, that they are toxic but that is besides the point) I'd also call myself anti-anti-Deutscher, only that doesn't make me German. You can extend this example, just because you do tolerate something doesn't make you part of it.

That said it is not a secret that Maga is a fascist group. I say it based on their own slogans. I don't know if they are even deny it.

[-] homoludens@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

The lyrics are not about Antideutsche (or anti-X in general) though. They are specifically about anti-antifascists.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Tolerance of hatred is endorsement of hatred, that's what the paradox of tolerance is all about. "Germanism" doesn't inherently negatively impact anyone and is largely a matter of circumstance, whereas "fascism" is an objectively evil ideology one must continually choose to follow. Tolerance of Germanism doesn't hurt anyone, tolerance of fascism hurts everyone. Your argument is valid, being against a protest movement doesn't necessarily make you a supporter of whatever the movement is protesting. But in the case of fascism, it absolutely does.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

They are not denying it they are side-stepping the question.

They need the moral imperative for as long as they can because the word itself will detract many of the soft supporting liberals/normies.

So they are anti antifa for now.

Once the capture is complete and they have their night of the long knives, the mask will come off completely at that point and they will proudly call themselves what they are: Fascists.

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