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[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Oh my god get a new joke. The U.S. uses both systems just like everyone else.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

You are funny. Most places do not use "both". They use metric and... Sometimes they switch to metric for good measure (hah!). To believe that the whole world does the old convert around is confirming another US stereotype (everyone else is like we are and that's a given) while you try to get us to stop mocking us stereotypes. Oh the irony!

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Are you saying that only the US really constantly has to do conversions between both systems? Are you saying that Americans are always doing a bunch of math that the rest of you aren't?

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I regret to inform you that... Yes, you are doing some math other's don't. Except for the British, those people are beyond savior with their obnoxious mix of weird unit collections.

[-] 22decembre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, only places where it is mixed is the anglosaxony... try to open to the world.

I use pounds because I do archery, where my bow's power is measured with that unit, which I translate as 1/2 a kg. I don't care that it's inaccurate.

There are also inches (I think) for Tv and computer screens, which is shitty.

But no one else uses imperial.

I worked with croncrete blocks (prefabricated building elements) some years ago and I was all the time making fast calculations of sizes and weight and I cannot imagine making that in imperial (admittedly because I am not used, but in present case it would just have been massively impractical)

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's true that the vast majority of the world uses only metric but Western English speaking countries tend to use a mix.

The UK is mixed, Ireland (where I am) is mostly metric but a person's height is still mostly imperial and butter is sold in 454g packs (a pound) and older folks still measure their weight in stones and pounds, Canada uses a mix (my sister lives there and we discussed this recently) and the US uses metric where appropriate (science, military, medicine).

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The only irony here is your ignorant self mocking me for my alleged ignorance. Most countries don't use metric and imperial, but they use metric and something.

And just as general advice, mocking and generalizing other people due to their nationality is a primitive and smoothbrained behavior. Grow up.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Ah... No mate, there are no "somethings" for "most countries". Most of the world uses straight up metric and that's it. What "local systems" do you know of that get used alongside metric?

And regarding the grow up part... See, here in Europe everybody will crack jokes about everybody else. French laugh at Germans, Polish mock the Spanish and everyone laughs at the British because they can't come back at us since they had their little voting oopsie and now need a form to import jokes into the EU.

Remember that one kid that never got the joke, took what was said in jest at face value, got upset and thus mocked even more? Americans have a surprising tendency to be that kid.

[-] 22decembre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There are "something" for a lot of things that are not in metrics.

Like tire sizes. My bow's power is measured in pounds (and I should use inches there too normally. I don't bother.) Screen sizes are in inches I think...

95% work in metrics. But there is always a little stuff in some weird units.

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"Remember that one kid that never got the joke, took what was said in jest at face value, got upset and thus mocked even more?"

Please stop, the irony, it's too much.

[-] vreraan@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don't use both, or at least, surely you mean "both" for cases where you are forced, like me by American online stores. And this joke won't stop until you get rid of that shitty system.

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Except we do use both. Sorry but you're just wrong.

And sure, you're entirely welcome to keep making the same joke over and over and pretending it's still funny. Show that dead horse who's boss.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, not really.

Your maps, road signs, and speed are still in miles, height is still in feet and inches, weight is still in pounds, etc.

In Canada, we may use imperial for a few colloquial things, but everything for official use is in metric.

[-] Nepenthe@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, for one, that's...still using both.

Two, I only wish we measured codeine in pints.

Three, and this is genuine interest/curiosity more than an internet gotcha โ€” either you're downplaying it because Canadians are really weird about making their whole identity The Country That Isn't The US, or the Wikipedia entry on this is incorrect and should be fixed.

I'd always heard the roadsigns in Canada were primarily metric but could be in both, whatever, could be regional, willing to disbelieve hearsay. But I don't think that cooking in tbsp, cups, and fahrenheit, or selling food by the pound and draft by the pint are really small colloquial concessions. Not to mention with the tool measurements, which we admittedly kinda force.

It's to varying degrees, but all the same, we both use both. US milk is in gallons, but all soda shall be in liters. If we wanna get technical about which measurements are the ones professionally used, both countries go metric.

What I found the most amusing: the healthcare section notes that Canadian measurements in the medical field may be different from American ones despite both of those being in metric, presumably just to be contrary

[-] ludwig@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Very few countries use both systems.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

True but the ones that do are Western English speaking countries like the UK, Ireland (where I am and which is in the final throws of ditching Imperial), Canada and to a lesser extent the US, which uses metric where appropriate.

Those countries are going to be disproportionately represented on here.

I read an article many years ago on why the the US hadn't gone metric and cost is a huge factor. Just replacing all the speed signs across such a huge land mass would be serious money for example with limited benefit.

Folks deal with the change itself just fine. I've lived though the change to metric and my parents lived through the change to decimal currency from shillings etc just fine also so ultimately the US still uses Imperial because it works just fine and the hassle of changing isn't worth it.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Only going to cost more down the line, sunk cost fallacy, etc...

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not really, they can use them until they need to be replaced and then have the replacements have both.

You'd have to have them in different cookies like Texas does with those bullshit fucking day/night speed limits

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

True. The U.S. is one of them.

In reality, while most countries don't use metric and imperial, they do use metric and some other local system of measurements. Many countries use both metric and their historically preferred system.

[-] crystal@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

What non-metric system does Germany use? What non-metric system does France use? What non-metric system does Poland use?

[-] ludwig@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] kspatlas@kbin.cafe 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

US has imperial for everything but guns and drugs, there are countries that use a lot of both (like UK) but there are many countries that use no imperial

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in a country that's gradually moved to metric over the last 30 years. The only thing we use imperial for now is height and pints in the pub. Older folks still use it for body weight.

Speed limits were less of an issue than you might think as they convert pretty closely - 30mph is very close to 50kph etc.

I love that a litre of water weighs a kilo and takes up 100 cubic centimetres.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing we use imperial for now is height and pints in the pub.

There's a really good reason for this, the first being that there is no metric equivalent of a pint because if there was it would be 500ml and an imperial pint is 570ml, nobody wants less beer in their pint. Poor Americans have a 475ml pint.

The height one (and any other remnants of imperial numeracy) is largely due to American cultural media exports and it's easier for non Americans to convert to American imperial units due to exposure to both, to engage in effective communication.

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We use both for guns, caliber is imperial (.22, .45, etc).

We exclusively use metric for science

[-] the_itsb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

US has imperial for everything but guns and drugs

If we're talking legal drugs, my prescriptions all come in milligrams.

If we're talking illegal drugs, though fractions of ounces or pounds were more common, it wasn't unusual to come across someone selling stuff by the gram back in the day, and I can't imagine that's changed. The weed dude would sell any amount at $10/gram - and yes, I did see someone come with $3 once. ๐Ÿ˜‚ I don't remember the coke dude's prices because that was much longer ago, but he was also totally fine with selling single grams.

Maybe my experience was different because I live in a college town, so the black market was supportive of the small purchases necessitated by student budgets.

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

everything but guns and drugs

Really shows their priorities

[-] CapraObscura@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Drugs, guns, baking, construction, manufacturing... actually, the better way to put it would be "literally fucking everywhere but the road signs and speedometers."

[-] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. Also ur fat and eat hambugers

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Now it's time for the school supplies joke

[-] 22decembre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of the world does not use imperial units.

[-] GrumbleGrim@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Oh really? So if I send blueprints to a steel fabricator in metric, they will not have a problem with that? Lol try again.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They'll only have a problem if you don't label your units or say somewhere what they are. And if you don't do that, that isn't an imperial vs metric problem, that's flat out bad engineering.

[-] GrumbleGrim@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

You clearly have never worked with structural steel fabricators.

[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Um, they wouldn't have a problem with that. That's exactly what I used to do, fabricate steel parts for companies like Liebherr and Komatsu, who would send us blueprints in metric. My coworkers and I actually preferred it.

[-] GrumbleGrim@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I'm talking about architectural steel. Not mechanical engineering, structural. I-beams.

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