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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You may have seen that MSNBC recently ended its association with a contributor who made an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event. That coverage was at odds with fostering civil dialogue and being willing to listen to the points of view of those who have differing opinions. We should be able to disagree, robustly and passionately, but, ultimately, with respect. We need to do better.

Seems like it's exactly what's being said?

Believe it or not, not everyone who disagrees with you is "doing a bit".

[-] spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 27 points 2 weeks ago

a contributor who made an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event

have you read the actual statement that got him fired?

from wikipedia:

On September 10, 2025, commenting on the killing of Charlie Kirk, Dowd said on-air, "He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we are in." Dowd also speculated that the shooter may have been a supporter.

you can agree or disagree with the decision to fire him (I'm not shedding any tears, Dowd was the chief strategist for the 2004 Bush re-election campaign, it's ludicrous that he was working for a supposedly "progressive" network like MSNBC in the first place)

but characterizing that statement as "celebrating murder" is just bullshit.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't. It was omitted from the article in question. I stand corrected.

[-] spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

I haven’t. It was omitted from the article in question. I stand corrected.

keep standing...because here's the 5th paragraph of the article:

Political analyst Matthew Dowd was fired from MSNBC on Wednesday after speaking about Kirk’s death on air. During a broadcast on Wednesday following the shooting, anchor Katy Tur asked Dowd about “the environment in which a shooting like this happens,” according to Variety. Dowd answered: “He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”

[-] chaos@beehaw.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

That "unacceptable and insensitive" comment was, in reality, an entirely reasonable take on how Charlie Kirk directly stoked the fires that ended up taking his life. They're sending a clear message that you are not allowed to speak honestly about any of the context surrounding the event, and can only share an opinion if it shows Kirk in a positive light, since apparently neutral or worse is not allowed.

[-] dom@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The person fired from msnbc said nothing about his death but instead spoke about his character and the environment Kirk supported and created.

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