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The former president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, has been sentenced to 27 years and three months in prison after being found guilty of plotting a military coup.

A panel of five Supreme Court justices handed down the sentence just hours after they had convicted the former leader.

They ruled he was guilty of leading a conspiracy aimed at keeping him in power after he lost the 2022 election to his left-wing rival, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Weird that judges decide the verdict instead of a jury. Is that normal in Brazil? Seems very abusable.

[-] Nils@piefed.ca 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Brazil uses Civil Law, as many other countries do, not Common Law as in the USA.
Brazil does have the concept of Jury, but this case fits a different criterion.

There are some conditions for a jury in USA as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juries_in_the_United_States

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

/c/mapswithoutgreenland

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Woah, crazy, all of the sea people fall under the system of Halakha? TIL

[-] kadup@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Your pedophile insurrectionary ex-president is free and president again.

Ours was just condemned to 27 years in prison.

Are you really in a position to comment on our judiciary system?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Not because of juries lol. The issue is the corrupt political actors. If citizens had that power instead I believe it would have been different.

[-] meliante@lemmy.pt 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How's that working out for you?

Why do you assume that if it's how it's done in the USA then it's the best way?

Fucking USAians and their arrogance.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

lol people are so hostile. The US definitely doesn’t do things well most of the time but juries do work pretty well in my experience.

[-] meliante@lemmy.pt 3 points 1 month ago

That's rich. A USAian saying people are hostile. In the days after a major hostile motherfucker got a sudden fountain open in his neck.

Get out of here. Fucking having the audacity to question the justice system in other countries because "in my experience". Loser.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was literally asking for people’s input because I don’t have experience with their legal system. But I guess you’re so intent on making everyone your enemy that you had to interpret it in the most negative light.

Questioning things in a polite, inquisitive way is good. Going off on people for questioning things is deranged behavior.

Also, I wonder if you are aware that people from other countries are individual humans with different opinions and behaviors on things? It seems not. What a very sad and myopic outlook.

[-] meliante@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weird that judges decide the verdict instead of a jury. Is that normal in Brazil? Seems very abusable.

Yes, very polite. Starting with calling how it's done in other places weird and finishing with accusing it of being just plain corruption.

Face it asshole. You're just a regular USAian thinking the world is that poor excuse of a country and everything else is worse.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nope. You don’t know shit about me. Fuck off.

Is this how you treat everyone from other countries? I’ve heard tell that many Europeans are xenophobic but I didn’t realize it was this bad.

[-] meliante@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, just arrogant USAians.

We're not trying to build walls and ICE acts over there. Saying Europeans are xenophobic. Do you have the faintest seed of an idea of how fucking idiotic that is?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Neither am I dipshit. That’s what I’m trying to explain to you. Unlike you, I’m responding to your behavior and not some imagined category.

Note I didn’t say Europeans are xenophobic. Just many of of them. And you.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 14 points 1 month ago

Isn't it the case of every Supreme Court? Which one has a jury?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Supreme Court doesn’t usually decide people’s sentences though. They might rule on a technical issue arising in a trial but not decide the verdict or sentence. At least, that’s how it works in the US.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

i love how you're correct and people are downvoting you because they listened to a podcast

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lemmy seems to have interpreted my comment as some kind of pro-US nationalist position. Which is ridiculous but whatever I don’t even try to figure out or worry about what will anger people here anymore.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'd say we need to be friends but it seems we already are

[-] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Normal in most countries. I wouldn't trust jury of inept people to understand evidence provided to them.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

I trust them more than corrupt politicians.

[-] coriza@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Are judges in the US elected? I know some are appointed. In some countries they are career public servants. They pass an exam and dispute with other candidates, so they are experts in their field that went in a public selection process.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Some are elected, yes. But at a certain level of power everyone becomes a politician.

[-] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

In Brazil, only murder cases go to jury trial, but even then, it's very different from the US. Here, jurors can interview witnesses and there's no deliberations between them, they go one at a time to a room with the presiding judge and cast a secret ballot, simple majority convicts or not. All other crimes are decided by the judge from the bench.

Oh, and our judges don't use gavels...

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

our judges don’t use gavels

Good protection against Banksy ...

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Interesting, thanks for the information. I’m a big fan of jury trial personally but I hope that system works well for you.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Brazil uses civil law system like Europe... no need for juries

[-] aeternum 2 points 1 month ago

you realise that people can opt for a bench trial in the US?

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