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[-] slakje@piefed.social 98 points 2 days ago

Who would have thought that people don’t want to be recorded without their knowledge or consent?

This would be a huge setback to anyone even remotely concerned about privacy.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Yeah, this is understandable but like, where were these people who are up in arms two decades ago? The ship has sailed. Walk around in any store, mall, shopping center, urban area... But no, all those recording devices are to keep me "safe". But glasses, now that's too far.

[-] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 24 points 2 days ago

There’s a huge difference between a somewhat stationary surveillance camera and a hidden personal camera that films 24/7 without an indicator.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I fail to see the difference. Actually, if anything, I'd make the argument that it's less invasive. Sure, the one person can be a stalker or whatever, and the camera company can be acting in bad faith, but they'd have to find you and maintain visual contact all day. The moment you step/drive onto a roadway, you're being tracked, and you have already lost the battle. Sometimes, you don't even need to leave your home. I'm from the states so this example is from that perspective.

Every intersection, at the very least capture your face, vehicle, direction of travel - and none of which have indications that they are recording you. When you stop for fuel, you have cameras from dozens of perspectives outside at the pumps and inside paying, watching you fuel up, get a snack. Getting back on the road, a cop passes you, and an automated license plate reader records where and when your vehicle was seen. When you enter your workplace, cameras. When you get groceries, the parking lot is littered with them, the store interior using them to track thefts, customer profiling, what items you pick up but set back down on the shelves. When you pull into your driveway, your neighbor across the street who has a ring doorbell detects you getting out of your car and notes the event. And on top of all the innocent use cases, with just a little effort, you've now been pulled into a dragnet search for an investigation because your phone was connected to the same tower as XYZ while they committed a homicide, a block away while you were getting your groceries. But now your movements for the past month are scooped up in a database, scrutinized and picked through with a magnifying glass. Looking for a reason, any reason, to nail you and hundreds of others caught up in this investigation, with anything they can find in their pursuit of the attacker. You, you are just a bonus to them.

I don't like either, to be clear, but I'd take the one camera on someone's face vs the thousands of networked cameras you pass - and likely don't even notice - every single day. Unfortunately, the agencies and companies that installed those cameras are quite indifferent to my feelings regarding them. Funny how that works.

Like I said, the ship has sailed.

[-] choochooMF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Y'all weren't listening to them.

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