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[-] CloudSheep@feddit.uk 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Greed.

I signed up for a year of Ultra yesterday, more as a show of support. I'm already regretting it after seeing how many tiers of pricing are now being shoved out.

I get the dev has to eat, but this is completely going against everything Lemmy is supposed to be about, while costing significantly more than its Reddit counterpart.

While not necessary, it would have been nice if there was a small discount for Ultra subscribers of Sync for Reddit. I got just over 1 year of usage out of my 'lifetime' purchase. A gesture, even a small one, would have been nice.

I've just been soured over this whole thing, tbh.

[-] ljdawson@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I added the new price tiers based on user feedback on here after launching.

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's more like blackmail tbh. "Pay or i'll track the shit out of you and sell the data to advertisers". I can see why people are put off, and I am also. And what's the guarantee if we pay that the data isn't collected and sold anyway?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gawd, tinfoil hats are in right now!

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

How's it tinfoil hat? It's very clear how much tracking is going on if you don't subscribe. None of this stuff is made up.

[-] peterpan520@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That's a unnecessary accusation.

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My last part was a question, not an accusation.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question.

"They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it."

Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics.

[-] peterpan520@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

"I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do.

That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not the one that needs convincing!

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off 🙂

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Then don't use it if that bothers you. It's not blackmail lol

@Lmaydev @quantum_mechanic

You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads

So many options

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Plenty of options for people with plenty of money.

@starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev

Web version is free. That’s how I browse Lemmy and it’s ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though.

The point is it’s all open, choose something and enjoy

[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There’s also ‘don’t use it’, which is a perfectly valid option.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

There's a difference between "There's a lot tracking happening if you don't pay!" and "What's the guarantee you don't track us if we pay?" and that difference comes in the form of a hat... Made of tinfoil...

[-] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Notice how it was a question? See this '?'

[-] F7o@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

That's totally reasonable from the point of view of a developer who has to earn something to live. I mean you still have the choice to not use it. The internet simply works through user tracking and advertising

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I've seen a lot of websites do the same thing. Either allow cookies or pay

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