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[-] frezik 9 points 1 day ago

It helps if a whole section of the political mass, the one that supposedly wants to protect minorities, didn't swear off guns.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

"swear off" vs "wanting the most basic of testing so mentally unstable people don't get to browse their local shops like a kid in a candy store"

You: "they are the same picture"

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[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

allow me to offer a little something unhinged to this old and tired discussion. feel free to disregard it. Just trying it out to see if it makes anyone feel any certain way.

The existence of mentally unstable people should be a motivation to make a society that doesn't prey on them or make them idealize being active shooters. The existence of mentally unstable people shouldn't be a preface to talk about which rights and autonomy is okay to take away from people.

[-] Mr_WorldlyWiseman 3 points 14 hours ago

You're right that Healthcare is real problem.

In the context of "taking away rights and autonomy": Cars are 100x more useful than guns, both during insurgency and peacetime. We still have locks, licensing, inspections, laws against unsafe use, and registration for cars, but not for guns. Wouldn't it be more liberal to have a right to drive?

Compare your ideal system to systems like Sweden and Switzerland, where citizens own many guns, and are well trained, but gun crime and gun negligence is extremely rare.

https://youtu.be/PXlSF15IBis

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 3 points 14 hours ago

That's true, cars are regulated in ways you'd think would make sense to map onto gun. I've live some places though where I would even call auto regulations harmful for people trying to survive there. But you raise a excellent point, I'm as guilty as anyone of contempt for people over a certain age having access to freeway. There's some deep ageism within me I need to address and there's an issue societally to examine about how to handle the issue. My gut instinct is to immediately say that's different from 2a but I can't think of a compelling reason why it is.

Sweden and Switzerland kind of sound like my personal ideal actually. That's a good system and I'd be happy seeing combined with an economic setting that made that training available to everyone.

[-] Mr_WorldlyWiseman 2 points 12 hours ago

I think that's a very thoughtful way to look at it.

[-] frezik 4 points 1 day ago

That's so much a strawman it's not even worth the time I spent to read it.

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