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[-] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

i don’t disagree, but affectually what are we to do?

solving the actual problem at hand here would mean fixing the flow of wealth, power, and capital away from the elderly.

the government is never even going to entertain that notion. that’s why we’re debating age limits instead of something that matters.

most people would emotionally bring up protest or violent revolution at this point, but, i honestly don’t think western populations will meet whatever thresholds must be met to catalyze such an event anytime soon. people don’t like to hear it but the masses are all bark and no bite. that’s why they trample us so publically and flagrantly now, they know there is nothing we could do against it bc 80% of people are too dumb or scared to care.

in such a world, sitting on the internet clamoring for revolution is honestly kind of cringe and i see it all over lemmy and other spaces. people who actually care are thinking strategically, what could realistically affect change in our struggle? knowledge is power. if (rhetorical you, in this context) your internal world model leads to you thinking shitposting is praxis, you’re part of the 80%. spreading the word doesn’t help because the problem isn’t that people are ignorant, they’re just fucking stupid. when we can’t agree what the signs and symbols we use to communicate even mean anymore what are we to do?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I might sound a bit nutty to some that are not paying attention to such things, but I also came off like a complete loon to people that knew nothing about what AI might mean, and even though we are only at the "LLM phase" right now and at least some of the people I've talked to pre-2022 or so no longer snicker at some of the things I say any more. Well, at least not in regards to automation...

I don't know that setting term limits or arbitrary age restrictions is going to solve any wealth redistribution, whatsoever. If we start seeing people, especially the rich, starting to have longer and longer average health-spans with full cognitive function, I do know it can take a long time for government to catch up to realities and course-correct.

Finding ways to remove dark money and the legalized bribery system in general would be something much more useful, in my view. I'm not sure why we'd want to direct the flow of money and power away from people based on the number of times they've been around the sun, though. If anything, if people start making the leap to much longer lives and maintaining full cognitive function, it would make sense that the older someone is, the more qualified they actually are.

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