Good actually user friendly foss chat app? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 days ago by bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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Is there any actual easy to use foss chat app my friends and SO could use ? Everyone uses fb messenger because its so easy. I cant find anything easy enough to make people switch to, that won't have issues and send them running back to zucc

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[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

There’s no law in existence that requires them to store metadata or hand anything over to the feds. They have been subpoenaed several times and it always comes out the same: the only data they have is what I detailed above. Even if they DO have it (which they don’t) they don’t provide it, which is effectively the same thing.

It is just enough that this metadata be handled within the computing environment of Amazon. Their refusal for anyone use their own server and federate with "their" (as in captive) users also prevents anyone for using it in any other way...

If you dont see that Signal requires that its users use a strong-selector phone# in order to use the service, there is nothing i can do for you.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you're unable to explain or provide evidence as to why any of that is problematic, there's nothing I can do for you.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Authorities don't need to ask Signal for metadata; Signal promises they don't log any themselves and that is probably true.

But, they outsource their server operation to Jeff Bezos, and then they do some absurd security theater to pretend that cryptography makes it so that the server (Amazon) couldn't possibly log metadata - which is obviously false.