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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 255 points 1 year ago

What scares me shitless is the idea that Trump is what the US is and what the US has earned. Who's ready for that conversation?

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago

100% this. Im German and I feel so strange that americans are choosing this guy for president. Not to be offensive, but damn.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

As an American I feel that a majority of Americans loathe him. The issue lies in not all those people vote.

What scares me is that any Americans vote for him. How can you be so blinded and not see what a lying, cheating grifter that he is. The man is not intelligent, doesn’t read, is petty to a fault, vindictive, spiteful, narcissistic, nepotistic and just generally not a good person. Why would you choose that for a leader? It’s because you share those traits. That’s what scares me.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The issue lies in not all those people vote.

Partly. There's also the issue with the electoral college, because that makes some votes worth more than others (depending on where you live).

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Well the fact someone in Wyoming voting is worth 3.5 times someone voting in California is a huge problem I agree.

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[-] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's a huuuuuuuge issue.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I don't know that they all share those traits per se, but just as damning not only to them but to our culture as well is our tolerance and even expectations that people in charge have those traits. I saw it everywhere when I lived in a deeply conservative small city, anyone with power (including company management) was beyond reproach. The status quo was defended harshly by the overwhelming majority. We have lost our values to greed by using the american dream as a trojan horse full of awful ideals.

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[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

No no you don't understand, I mean, sure the media makes him seem like he has those traits, but he's really a great guy! I mean I guess it's been proven he has those traits but who doesn't right? Isn't everyone deep down homophobic and racist and misogynist themselves?

And really if you think about it, God can use anything he wants right? So why would he pick the Catholic guy out there trying to invest in America? He definitely wants the guy who most looks like my own deep down beliefs. So no matter what you say, your argument is invalid because God is on my side.

..../s in case that was needed.

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[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

The crazy part is they think Biden makes the US look bad. When you present evidence to the contrary they say, "who cares what other countries think. "

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

My aunt thinks Jill Biden is controlling the country from the shadows and wants to run in place of Joe in 2024. We are fucked

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I remember people saying most similar things of Hillary Clinton during Bill's administration.

[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think it's time to have your aunt committed

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

What does she think about Nancy running things for Ronnie once the Alzheimers got too bad?

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s what I told my mother when she told me, but I doubt it’s gotten back to the source

[-] eldavi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

We are fucked

more so because our only choice is between racist ultra-authoritarian con man and an opportunistic career politician that had always sided with racists and homophobes until it was politically popular.

[-] KnumbKnuts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

In fairness to your aunt, I have voted for Joe 3 times (2008, 2020, 2020), and even I think Joe is pretty close to weekend at Bernie's. He really needs to step aside for Newsom.

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Fellow German and... yeah. People joke about the Hitler comparisons, but you won't see us laughing. (I mean, in general, but that's a different topic.)

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 32 points 1 year ago

You should be offensive, we deserve it.

We picked an absolute trash human as our leader, a sizeable portion of which chose him specifically because they wanted him to hurt people (see: "he's not hurting the right people" woman.) That same group will often cite their desired outcome for any given thing is "to see liberals cry/get mad."

Hillary Clinton made a mistake by saying it out loud, but she was 100% correct when she said a large portion of Trump supporters are "a basket of deplorables." They absolutely are and are deserving of scorn.

I just hate how well propaganda works and how much money a random grifting asshole can make by parroting bullshit on YouTube, they boost each other and perpetuate this garbage era we're going through...

[-] SoaringDE@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Same here. I think this is what happens when education is underfundet. I'm happy we're back to G9 but we should definitely pay teachers more to counteract the lack of teachers and ensure every teacher has sufficient time to do their job well.

Otherwise people cannot be taught to think critical, question "why is he saying X?" instead of just weather it is true or not. Often understanding why somebody is saying sometimg at the time they do is much more important after all.

[-] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 8 points 1 year ago

This idea that we are under funded is not true. Per Capita we spend more than every other country on education than any other OECD country besides Luxembourg.

We are number two world wide for funds to education per capita.

Our funding is just wasted and ineffective. We have a cultural problem with education. Not a funding problem.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yes School boards and superintendents are extremely well funded. The fact that teachers have to struggle to scrape by while at the same time funding classroom supplies out of their own money just reeks of mis-allocated misspent funds. There's always money for another Sports program. While science technology engineering and math extracurriculars in many districts don't exist.

It's a perfect mirror of our diseased American culture. Where wealth and wealth alone is Merit. And those who give the least (work) get the most.

[-] Barbacamanitu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That money goes to administrators instead of teachers.

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Americans aren't. A corrupt system is.

[-] Gawanoh@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of germans voting for idiots which just repeat a few Trump topics a few months later. :(

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I was visiting Germany in 2016 during the spring, before the election. Several Europeans, after hearing we were from the US, asked, "What the hell is going on in your country?"

[-] PixelatedAvocado@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Man, we had absolutely no idea what to expect...

[-] Barbacamanitu@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Yep. He is who the U.S. has become. We are an embarrassment.

[-] editilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

No, Trump is the hail mary of the US ruling class. They are scared that the people just start ignoring the government and take power, so they give them demagogues

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

They're called representatives for a reason.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

well yeah we have an attempted fascist overthrow of our government about once every 100 years or so because we like to stay just this side of fascism on a normal day

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