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[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Biden doesn't have a chance on reelection. The guy needs to retire and the left knows it. Biden makes Carter look competent.

[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

I mean yes, let’s all come together and shit on the one president that has accomplished more than the last 5 combined because he’s old and he fell that one time riding a bike.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

"shit on the one president that has accomplished more than the last 5 combined"

Are you daft? You can't be serious, I mean come on man?

[-] Leer10@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

This president was the most conservative in his primary.

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[-] keeb420@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago

At least biden isn't gonna brag about beating a cognition test.

[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Camera, chair , woman. See totally sane. He even drew a clock and identified a giraffe!

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He bragged about being top of his class in law school, a lie. He bragged about being involved in the civil rights movements, also a lie. He plagiarized someone elses speeches. This list is endless

[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Carter? Why mention Carter? Not Nixon? Not Harding? Why not Trump? Bush? Fucking Taft? What’s the reason for the Carter comparison? I don’t know what you’re on about.

[-] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Because warmongering republicans love to say Carter was terrible when actually he was at worst run of the mill. But since Reagan followed him they have a rage boner against him. Literally one of the greatest humans with all the work he’s done with his charitable organizations.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

He was the first neoliberal president.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

We neolibs happily claim Carter and history will be very kind to him

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

These are two separate things.

Yes, I agree that he should retire and pass the torch to whoever wins an open primary without interference by the DNC.

But that doesn't mean he can't win.

I'd vote for a cat with mange and one eye who lives in an IHOP dumpster over a Nazi sympathizer.

I would certainly prefer nearly anyone reasonable over that cat.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to not vote against the collapse of American democracy, irrespective of how enthused or not I am about who that vote is ultimately for.

Though really, it's the two party system that needs retirement.

I probably agree with ~80% of the US electorate on the issues that are actually most important to me. Which means we should have one party that represents that vast majority with aggressive open ranked choice primaries to see who controls it, with fringe groups like outspoken communists or fascists needing to run severely minority candidates rather than kidnapping half the nation by getting lucky during a fragmented closed primary process with a dozen candidates for only half the nation.

Nazi Germany could have been defeated with ranked choice voting well before WWII.

American democracy must be preserved or the world is fucked, but it should also probably get a bit of an update with the best features developed and vetted in democracies since 1776.

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

First of thank you for a well thought out rebuttle, I'm going to need a bit to support and counter some of your points. I didnt want to not reply and think I was just trolling/ghosting.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Refusing to allow their candidate be primaried, refusing debates, suing to keep other partys off the ballot doesn't sound that democratic. If democrats were truly concerned about keeping republicans out of office they need to make the moral choice and vote 3rd party. Because we will not support your neoliberal, corporate owned, warhawk. Doesnt matter if its red or blue in office, the working class and poor continue to get fucked over by them. And being told they are doing well, despite the evidence they are not, is not that convincing.

[-] SystemThreat@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Oh damn, you're right. The Dem doesn't pass a 1000% purity test. Guess I'll just stay home and let others decide my fate.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

If democrats were truly concerned about keeping republicans out of office they need to make the moral choice and vote 3rd party.

Um... that would put Trump in office. I have no idea what sort of "logic" you used to come up with that one.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The guy needs to retire and the left knows it.

Unlike Trump, who is- checks notes- three years younger than Biden.

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

And who else has a better shot of beating Trump? If you reused the 2020 primary list, would any of them fare better? No.

Biden sucks but he’s the best they have still.

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[-] CascadianBeam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

“The left”. Who dat?

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Biden is starting to make Palin look competent

[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

He’d have to trip over a couple thousand more sand bags to reach the level Palin’s stupidity

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

do you really want to see the poll numbers for a harris (the incumbent vp) vs trump matchup? that is, if harris could even make it through the democratic primaries?

[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Harris would never make it, that idiot giggle turns off everyone. Also is she Black or Indian? Seems to change with the breeze, and dumb as a box of hammers.

RFK is the only hope for the DNC.

And I don't think he would make it, I'm guessing Republicans will win. "Bidennomics" is enough to sink the DNC's chances.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao imagine thinking RFK is going anywhere but to YouTube and substack after his "campaign"

Dude is a grifter here to grift you

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Also is she Black or Indian? Seems to change with the breeze

Do you also say that about whether Obama is white or black or does this only apply to mixed-race people whose parents are both brown?

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