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Another excellent piece from Iris Meredith - strongly recommend reading if you want an idea of how to un-fuck software as a field.

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[-] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The English national curriculum exposes every child to programming of some sort. 10 years ago it was 8yo kids learning Scratch, all of them.

I posted about it at the time: it turns out scratch is probably the answer, scratch is probably still the answer

in high school maths and computers they learn python.

my kid has no wish to become a professional dev, but can wield python as is useful to them.

[-] zogwarg@awful.systems 2 points 9 hours ago

When I was a kid in France it was Basic on TI and Casio graphing calculators, while in principle I agree that not every child will enjoy math, the sieve of Eratosthenes, LCM and GCD are good exercises for a first program. And i think it's easy to grasp that it's a lot less tedious to write a program for it, than to do it by hand.

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