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[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 33 points 4 days ago

EU: Thank you Google for complying with the DSA.

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-services-act_en

This is a a huge part of it, the whole "prevent illegal" parts.

  • "easier reporting of illegal content"
  • "less exposure to illegal content"
  • "level-playing field against providers of illegal content"

The EU isn't going to punish them for this, they will hold this up as the golden standard.

[-] localhorst@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago
[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Inside the EU's chest there are two wolves.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The EU waltz.

One step forward.
One step to the left.
Two steps to the right.
Three steps back.

Repeat.

[-] NicestDicerest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Just as they did with Apple when they forced them to allow sideloading? So yeah, the EU will push massively against this if its implemented there.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 4 days ago

Where does it say that Google is blocking all side loading?

It says they are blocking the installing of unsigned apps. This is the macOS Gatekeeper being the only option on Android. You can still download and install apps that aren't in the Play Store. So the EU will still love this as 3rd party apps can still exist, but at the same time anything "illegal" can be reported to them immediately.

[-] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It's effectively becoming the gate keeper in the same way apple only allowing app installs through its app store only is a gate keeper.

[-] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

They are gatekeeping which apps you can install, not the installation method.

[-] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Which is just the loophole they're trying to use now to assert control. This is just technicalities, the end result is that if you want to make apps for others to install they want to be the final say on you being allowed to do that or not.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You mean when they forced Apple to implement the "trusted trader" scheme.

[-] NicestDicerest@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, i mean when they forced apple to open their IOS system to side loading custom, unverified apps.

Here, have a read:

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/117767

The trusted trader scheme only applies if you want to distribute your app via the official apple iOS app store.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

The DSA requires people offering apps ("traders") to provide certain information. For example: address, email, and phone number must be made public. When Apple introduced that, this also caused some outrage and calls for EU regulation. Despite the fact that this was exactly the regulation called for. Hence, why I mentioned that trusted trader scheme.

Google may be legally required to do this. I'm not sure how the DSA is to be interpreted on this. It's certainly not a stretch (see Article 31). It's out of touch to believe the EU will push against this.

[-] NicestDicerest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Okay aber schau mal. Die EU hat Apple Verklagt und gezwungen, Nicht-Registrierte, nicht gemeldete Apps und sogar Appstores auf IOS verfügbar zu machen. Für die Apps dort muss niemand irgendwas angeben, du kannst dir einfach irgendeine App von Github kopieren und auf deinem IPhone ausführen, dank dem Urteil von vor c.a. 10 Monaten.

Warum sollte dann jetzt, wenn Google das Sideloaden von Custom Apps streichen möchte, die EU plötzlich fein damit sein? Ich meine, sie haben in einem langen Prozess Apple dazu gezwungen, genau das zu ermöglichen und die Monopolstellung als einziger App-Distributor angeklagt.

Und das spannende ist ja: Diese Entscheidung wurde nach August 2023 getroffen, also nach der offiziellen Einführung und Anwendung des DSA. Heißt: Hier wurde entschieden das Sideloaden kein Bruch des DSA's darstellt.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hast du da eine Quelle dazu? Soweit ich weiß, verlangt Apple, dass alle Apps "notarized" sein müssen. Also das, was Google jetzt auch einführt.

Für Apps im offiziellen Store ist das explizit EU-Vorschrift. Warum sollte die EU was dagegen haben, wenn das freiwillig ausgedehnt wird (falls es freiwillig ist)?

[-] NicestDicerest@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Stimmt - Du hast recht.

Laut Apple Hier müssen die Apps tatsächlich verifiziert sein, auch wenn sie über alternative Wege distributiert werden.

Das wusste ich nicht, ich habe das damals so verstanden, dass die Apps nicht zertifiziert sein müssen und installiert werden können wie bei Android.

Hm. Na super. Dann wird die EU wohl nicht dagegen vorgehen, im Gegenteil. Dachte das wäre unter dem Digital Markets Act anders... Na da freu ich mich ja schon drauf

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

The Cyber Resilience Act may also have something to do with this.

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