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Now is not the time
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this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2025
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The military can send missiles to any point on the globe with an accuracy of centimeters without losing a man. The time for a resistance was decades ago.
We overslept.
Yes. And the second best time is now.
Yeah… lol. It always looks good in text, doesn’t it?
“THE SECOND BEST TIME IS NOW.”
It’s such a bold and provocative statement. The problem is when it comes to actually do the work. Ninety one million people couldn’t bring themselves to check a box in November. So…. I predict that the castle will remain un-stormed.
This again.
bring themselves to check a box for genociders.
This again.
As I said on the other comment you said the same thing on:
Looks like you ended up with all that genocide but now with a side of LGBTQ+ persecution, illegal deportations, and concentration camps!
How’s all that winning feeling bud?
I'm European, seeing you go down is winning
Yeah. So. I’m not sure what your damage is, but it’s not my business. There’s clear something going on there and it’s not my problem.
You’re derailing the conversation to illustrate that you get some sadistic joy from the suffering of others and I don’t believe giving you the platform to continue is healthy for anyone involved, so I’m blocking you.
Be sure to come at me with your sock puppets so I can block them too.
I think it’s just better for everyone.
LOL
The majority of the world wants you violent imperialist mass murdererd gone.
It's a joyful event.
No crocodile tears for any of you or your kind.
and with such vast power and influence… name the victories the US has had verses an insurgency on their own turf?
and that’s considering untouchable industrial military complex, logistics pipeline, more numerous, better trained, and armed forces, unlimited money, and no real push back from the american populous.
if one appeared within the US… it would be absolutely devastating to the military
None. Because they have only been tried once and failed because the odds were even. But now…
If you think the armed civilian populace of America can stand up to the full weight of the military Bering down on them…. I wish you good luck. But we both know how much all the internet bravado only looks good in writing.
since the 1770’s i know of two wars the US has won against an insurgency.
the US has been in a LOT of wars though. and one of the things they learned was that bombs were not very effective, and the us would have a much worse time off it bombing their own cities. A-wall’s and desertions would go through the roof, they would be out gunned a thousand to one, with literally more guns then people. Isfulstructure they would rely on is vulnerable from every angle, the government would be prisoners in their own bunkers.
it would be devestating if the us has an insurgency
But rolling over is not an option. The military isn't going to kill all the workers. The workers are more important than any other group. If the workers strike, the rich suffer.
I’m not sure if anyone told you, but if the workers strike- everyone will also suffer. Including non combatant civilians.
When the resistance in territories occupied by nazi germany and imperial japan killed a high ranking official of the occupying force, the occupiers would round up innocent people and shoot to kill them on the streets. "Reprisals" is what it's called. But do you think the resistance should've given up? Surrender to nazi germany and imperial japan just to avoid the "reprisals"? No, because if they had done that, the whole world would be speaking german and japanese.
lol… it’s not the 1940’s. You know this right? It’s important that you know this.
Yeah guys! It's very important that we learn nothing from history and that we ignore the signs of fascism rearing its head once more. /s
Obviously. What do you think happens to the workers once they're enslaved? The workers need to unite NOW, if they're ever gonna have a chance to pull the rich and powerfull down into the mud.
But what is your solution to the current issue then?
So… your solutions is basically to fuck everyone and just stop everything. lol….
Good luck with that.
My solution?
My solution is to have had everyone vote back in November. That way the bed we’re now having to lie in wouldn’t have been made for us in such a way that would lead to you and I having to have this conversation.
But considering the fact that my solution requires manipulating the laws of physics, and fits has a barely above zero chance of succeeding.
We’re fucked and all we can do is wait it out.
So just don't do anything, and hope your slaveowner will be nice? Got it. He won't, and a lot of people will die because you don't give enough of a shit.
If you did have a time machine, how would you get everyone to vote?
Oh there’d be no way I alone would be able to move that mountain. The concept I spoke of involved everyone from right now, going back to 2024 knowing then what we know now…. for a do-over.
But the more I read through the comments, the more I have to accept that many of the people here would chose not change a fucking thing.
There’s tons of people here who were here during the election that were crying and shouting for everyone to not vote blue.
Every single one of them that haven’t run away or rolled an alt so as to return to play the victim of their own decisions- are still going on about that shit. Not a single one admitting they made a mistake and that they wished they could have helped stop this. Not ONE. Yet you don’t see anyone wishing they hadn’t voted against Trump. Even if they (like me) had to plug their nose to do it.
So at this point, I think the collective ignorance has reached such a profound level, that it would be impervious to any form of modification via time travel. It’s so much a part of our fucking culture now, that there’s no chance we wouldn’t just take that shit back there with us. Hell, I’d go so far as to say that our ignorance so fucking prevalent within us that I honestly believe that at this point- it’s embedded into our evolutionary process- essentially….
stupidity is in our DNA.
You know how you could change it? By convincing the DNC they will 100% lose on the platform and actions that made them lose. Nothing else, going back and trying to tell millions of people that ICE will send people to concentration camps and deprive them of due process and give Israel unlimited logistical and diplomatic support as they commit a genocide, and they will say "...like theyre doing now?"
LOL "wait it out"
What a bunch of pathetic weaklings.
Where's your american heroes patriot biggest fighter for freedom stand up for what we believe in greatest country democracy in the universe talk now?
Voter turnout is always highest for presidential elections, and the last two have had the highest in decades. Yet that is still in the low 60's. Any ideas for how to increase turnout?
vote harder!
A fascist dictator who laid out exactly what he was going to do in a bullet pointed manefesto was enough for me. But considering that this wasn’t enough to make people get off their asses and check a fucking box- I really don’t see anyone scrambling to arms.
There was no box with a non-genocide collaborator.
Looks like you ended up with all that genocide but now with a side of LGBTQ+ persecution, illegal deportations, and concentration camps!
How’s all that winning feeling bud?
We had all that under Biden too, and Kamala promised to do what Trump had been doing, but more competently.
I don’t debate of even bother with people that make shit up in order to be a part of, or stay in the discussion.
Either play within the margins of reality, or go home.
Do you not remember the Migrant overflow facilities they concentrated immigrants in under Biden, in greater numbers? Oh right, you went back to brunch once a D was doing the same shit we all agreed was bad when Trump was doing it.
No one said anything about winning. I think their point was that it was all losing.
So let’s just loose even more then, right? I can’t fucking stand people that are so smugly arrogant and entitled that they think no one will be affected by their ignorance.
Their wishful thinking remain so regardless of how badly they want it, and the result of their wishful thinking got us trump.
I think ypu are falling for the trap of blaming the other victims. No matter how people voted, the person doing the evil is still who needs to be blamed. Well him, and the system that let him get there in the first place. Your anger is justified, but directing it at people you have never met, and most of whichs vote made no difference (lot of blue state voters didn't vote, but the state still went blue) is only going to cause more people to be disillusioned and not vote.
America didn't win in Afghanistan, and you think it would win a war if the military was forced to turn their guns on friends and family?
Yes. I absolutely do. There’s a reason Trump fired military commanders.
commanders don't really matter if the soldiers revolt
The soldiers are people who looked at this and said "sign me up".
Best of luck.
Weapons are for the weak.
Disagree. There’s too many Americans to carpet the whole 🇺🇲. Trump doesn't want a pyrrhic victory.
But... they don't have enough missles to kill even 1% of the population (no source) Unless you include nukes... So they don't really matter if the resistance is large enough.
So if we’re going to resort to splitting hairs, let’s do it right.
No- America does not have enough “missles” to kill everyone in America. However the number they can kill would be FAR greater than one percent, as one percent of America is only three point three million people. The population of New York alone is eight point eight million.
So, if the military simply just sent one or two Trident II D5s per city, it would wipe out any potential resistances that could even stand a snowball’s chance in Florida.
Now, that’s just New York.
The U.S. has fourteen Ohio-class submarines. Each capable of carrying a maximum of twenty Trident II D5 missiles, for a total of two hundred and eighty deployed missiles.
So let’s say we sent two per major US city. That’s one hundred and forty major US cities of their choosing- Wiped out. Gone.
The only half-assed winning strategy here would be to amass said resistance in the heart of every red state.
Hope this helps.
Thats like salting then bleaching the plants in your garden because butterflies disturb you. You can do it to show how powerful you are but you're really doing more damage to yourself.