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Why aren't all blue controlled states viewing this as an act of war? The federal government is literally invading states against the states' will. First LA, then DC, now Chicago? Where the fuck is the line drawn?
Everybody has their own red line. I have two.
The first is a person very close to me, who is a member of multiple vulnerable demographics. If anything happens to them, it's on. I'd become a very dangerous person.
The second is elections. We have NEVER suspended elections in America, not even during the Civil War. If elections are suspended, America ceases to exist, and if that happens, then I have no obligation to pay taxes or follow ANY laws. It's Robin Hood Economics, and I'm heading for the nice neighborhood.
What are the national guard going to do? What do you think they're going to do? They're there to provoke and instigate, they'll lay around in public buildings and twiddle their thumbs and life will go on as normal.
It's questionably an invasion, but they aren't going to actually do anything because that would require someone to give the orders to do something, and the GOP is spineless as shit when it comes to putting their names on things.
They want to illicit a response, let them waste their time.
Ummm, how about it's setting a super fucked up precedent? Even if they don't do anything, it should absolutely not be something that's tolerated and normalized to have armed military roaming our streets.
Politicians waiting for the public to get riled up. Public waiting for the politicians to start something. Classic bystander effect at work.
Remember the Ok Corral scene in Tombstone, where they all freeze with their guns out, and wait for the other guys to make the first move?
That's where we are right now.
I notice a lot of people on lemmy shaming others for not doing anything while they themselves clearly aren't doing anything either
We're doing something. We're pooping!
I don't control local police forces or national guards or even any militia groups. The best i can do it stockpile liquor bottles and Styrofoam
I assume the majority aren't Americans.
But they tend to assume whoever they're talking to is American
Classic bystander effect at work.
I don't think it's that, but more that nobody wants to be the first. It's going to be a hell of an entry in the history books, and once someone breaks the seal then a lot of activities across the US are going to start being a hell of a lot more lethal.
It's basically a high tension Gordion knot where whoever cuts it gets turned into physics when all the energy gets released from it. Wherever first revolts is probably gonna get ass blasted until things can be organized or until chaos spreads enough that effective assault is made impossible.
Depends. Are they American to begin with? If not, the rest of us are just watching this particular shitstorm, if you don't mind.
Yeah, as a non-American, having lived with being exposed all my life to the American propagated myth about Americans being the most freedom loving and individualistic people on Earth, it is a bit curious to see how quick and unopposed the implementation of dictatorship in the US is.
The average person has not been personally impacted enough to do anything about it. Until they are, and a large enough number of people feel they're on a path to losing everything, will they do something about it.
You can't get more selfishly individualistic than the current American response to fascism, but this is nothing new. They couldn't even agree that everyone deserves healthcare.
The weird thing is, is that the people criticizing the people who criticize those not doing anything are themselves not doing anything either. Not an American btw. It's bystanders all the way down!
I can't wait for them to try it in NYC.
If I learned anything in my life so far, it's that no one ever comes to help.
They'll draw the line when it's too late to stop it