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Glad they're taking off the gloves a little, but it's always been a non-option to just make our lives significantly and irrevocably better like M4A or the PRO act and although they're good at trying and failing, they never talk about the consequences as dire as they actually are with few exceptions.

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

You know we need to destroy the power of both

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Of course. And my belief is that neither voting nor abstaining from voting for anyone is going to achieve that.

However, it may make the task easier or harder.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

yeah the other option is revolution, and with that it's still not guaranteed you end up with what you want when the dust settles. Good chance China or Russia will take advantage and jump in and fill the power vacuum in the US when civil war happens.

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

There's another real possibility.

History seems to be repeating itself. Right now the U.S. is in the "Germany in 1933" phase. If we don't deal with the situation ourselves then it's possible that a coalition of other countries could do the job for us, in which case "innocent" Americans will be nothing more than collateral damage.

Who knows how much the world's Nuclear arsenal will change the situation, but if any regime in the last 100 years is stupid and pig headed enough to try and win a thermonuclear war.... that's possibly why he says so many stupid and out of pocket things- to convince people that is definitely an option.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Revolution is so far away in the US I think it's just an unserious idea at this point, and it has a poor track record in history anyway. Personally, I think political organizing outside of the parties is the best model, then use that organized power to disrupt the status quo and demand concessions. Syndicalism, basically, but it doesn't need to be only at the workplace. Shut down roads, block police from going anywhere, etc. Anything you can. But there needs to be a large constituency that supports these actions first. How to build that is an important question.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

These things have a way of happening suddenly, once the Tipping Point arrives. Nobody foresaw the fall of the Soviet Unions and the Iron Curtain. Sure, it seemed inevitable at some point, but when it happened, the world was shocked by both the suddeness that it happened, and the speed at which it progressed.

NOBODY in the entire world woke up that morning, thinking that the Berlin Wall would come down by the end of the day.

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