Fact File: Canadians can defend against home invaders, but force must be 'reasonable' (www.coastreporter.net)

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[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago

You and everyone with the same knee jerk response are fighting straw men. Read the article.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I have read the article. It doesn't really clear up what reasonable force is, basically reinforcing it is a case by case situation. The closest thing to clearing up what reasonable force is the following quote,

There are nine factors, which include things like the nature of the threat, whether there were other means to respond to it, whether someone used or threatened to use a weapon, and the size, age and gender of the people involved.

Let me just consider 9 different factors while trying to decide how best to protect myself groggy at 3 am while an intruder is still threatening me.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago

Do you worry about committing vehicular manslaughter every time you get in your car? Or do you just drive safely?

The article states that judges often side with the person defending themselves, and it's completely reasonable to have limits on what you can do to someone who is an intruder.

I'm glad we value human life unlike the barbaric laws and culture that allow people to kill children for knocking on the wrong door down south.

You're panicking over some bullshit misrepresentation of the situation. I bet you're also one of those who whine about how soft we are on criminals in Canada.... Yeah I bet this guy used appropriate force and will go away for a looong time, right?

Why don't you let the case play out and the facts emerge before having an opinion?

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

My opinion is on the basis of reasonable force and what that really means in an emergency situation where you have mere seconds to make important decisons. Nothing I've mentioned in either of my comments are case specific to this case or implying i want to murder people.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago

If you're not talking about this case and can't point to any examples where someone has been sentenced for self defense while acting in a way that you and I would consider reasonable then your opinion is not relevant.

All you're doing is spreading the idea that there's something wrong with our self defense laws, that they're too strict. If you wanna back down on that and say you were just making a pointless unrelated comment then be my guest