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Red meat wreaks havoc on gut and drives inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) in study on mice (newatlas.com)

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[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

I assume you went through the actual published article and have the necessary expertise to come to this "bullshit" conclusion.

I don't really know enough about mouse (and human) gut biome to know what the similarities and caveats are.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 2 days ago

Garlic, onions, citrus and beans fuck up and can even possibly kill mice, so it's not a straight comparison by any stretch

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

A quick google search will tell you what the primary diet of mice is: nuts and berries, small vertebrates and carrion.

Not USDA grade prime rib.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Not what the research is about though, but good doing your own research

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dude… it’s right in the article:

In the animal study, mice were fed three types of red meat – pork, beef and mutton – every day for two weeks.

Not sure where you the from, by where I’m at- mice can’t take down a pig, cow, or sheep. Even if they worked together with the other hunter/gatherer mice in their tribe and really thought hard about how badly they wanted it.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You clearly don't get it. This is not about what they eat.

If you mix two chemicals, they react the same way. It doesn't matter if this happens inside a mouse or a human.

Their reaction to it might be different, which is what the article ponts out. But the gut biome still compares to what's inside a human, so if you introduce something like red meat, the measured reaction inside will be similar, even if it's not in their diet, like you shallowly point out.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Oh I get it. It’s entirely about what they eat. Otherwise, the scientists wouldn’t have FED them meat. They’d liquify it and inject it.

Their gut biome is entirely different from ours. There are foods we eat daily that is poison to them. They as hard as you’d like, it this is bullshit science. Essentially an easy way to get grant funds.

Nothing more.