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Well then I don't see the relevant difference between what you're doing and assassination contracts
when I buy meat in a shelf, the animal is already dead, the killer has been paid, and I'm not the one who pays them. none of the facts are the same EXCEPT that someone got paid to do a killing.
So what if John Smith pays an assassin to kill you, and then I donate to John's GoFundMe to say thanks for getting you killed? Am I responsible then?
how could you be responsible for that? they did it without your knowledge, and without knowing whether anyone would set up or donate to the GoFundMe.
But animal farmers know that people like you will buy meat at the supermarket, so where you say I'm not responsible, you are.
no, they dont. I could get hit by a bus in my way to the grocery store today. it is impossible to know the future.
But they're gambling their livelihoods on the fact that enough people like you will. Their action is contingent upon their beliefs about the future. Your future.
exactly. they're gambling. I'm not responsible for their decision. there is no conspiracy, as in the case of assassination for hire.
They hire smart people to run the risk reward analysis. If you reduce the payout, they'll place smaller bets.
that doesn't work. can you point on this chart when you stopped buying meat?
"boo hoo, I'm one person in a population of billions and I don't feel like I matter" grow the fuck up. Stop expecting to be special.
seems like you know your plan is not effective
Yeah, there's too many immature people who won't work as part of a team, and instead will only help if their personal actions have huge solo effects. If you people would grow up and help out, we could actually get stuff done, but instead you just complain and seek comfort
whatever your excuse is, it doesn't work
Yeah, you should be kinder and more mature. It's really inconsiderate of you not to help end factory farms
if you can come up with an effective plan, let me know
I have an effective plan. Everyone stops buying meat, the supermarkets lose money buying it, they cancel their contracts, and the animal agriculture industry goes bankrupt. If you won't do your part in the plan, that sounds like a you problem.
let me know when it starts working
Status update: you're still being a big baby
your plan still hasn't even started to work
Then fucking help, stop asking to be special.
i'll be looking for a more effective solution, thank you.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
if it were effective it might be good. it's neither
That's cause you're letting the perfect be the enemy of it. You shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of actually trying either.
I'll try something that is effective
Being vegan is effective, it's just less effective than inflation when nobody does it
which animal wasnt killed because of your shopping habits? where is it now?
what effect has being vegan had?
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Her name is Daisy, and she used to be a cow egg and a cow sperm. In a parallel universe where I ate meat, her sperm half was forcibly injected up her mother's snatch, she was born, fed high fructose hormone rich corn slop to accelerate her growth, living in her own shit in a factory farm that was barely cleaned. She didn't run once in her sad life, and one day she was improperly stunned by an overworked and traumatized slaughterhouse worker, before being butchered while fully conscious until the pain caused her death.
In this universe, Daisy was never born, because an accountant at the local grocery store decided to reduce the store's order by a tiny fraction one month, and that was enough that the factory farm's business manager decided to birth one less cow that year, to save money.